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The one year i'm too busy to do a separate music entry, and there are no music entries?
=(

I'll try to test the entries tomorrow. But everyone who codes for the SMS, is a winner. :)

Everyone: if you want to update your entries, add better screenshots, etc. you can either edit the Wiki yourself (if you have access) or post in your thread, and will be apply the changes yourself. Please don't e-mail the competition address as we don't monitor it as much as the forum :)

@eruiz00 If you can please upload the final version with source codes included for reference. I have uploaded your v1 with sources and your v2 without sources :)

Will try to add the hacks later tonight, if not tomorrow.

I just fixed a few minor issues with the wiki entries, nothing fancy, and added devkitSMS and PSGlib tags so that they appears listed in the relevant pages.

We had less entries this year, but the quality is high indeed!!! ... well, of course excluding my own entry ;)

I'm starting to feeling like "shouldn't we add a '9 ½' to the poll options?"
because otherwise I have to award 9 to half of the entries, they really don't deserve any less, so I'm not going to give 8 to many just because I've got a personal preference...

Perhaps we should change to 90s games magazine scoring, with the only possible values 70%, 80%, 90%, 91%, 92%, 93% and 94%.

or just add 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4 which is actually kind of equivalent...

BTW I do understand that the voting phase is already on the way so we might possibly discuss this for the next year :)

To be honest, I was joking. If they are so close then you must not be able to distinguish between them - or you can recalibrate your scale to open more granularity.

uh, ok. I never get jokes - I actually thought it was a good idea.
Thanks for your suggestions, though.

Hacks entries are now posted. Sorry, no music this year!

Presentation video of the competition (in French):
Code:
Hack:

2017 is the year of the shmup. :)

How long the voting phase will last? I have just voted as I'm leaving in a few days... (and it's a pity I couldn't give some entries the time they deserved)

Not sure yet, usually we do about two weeks.

Bock wrote

Everyone: if you want to update your entries, add better screenshots, etc. you can either edit the Wiki yourself (if you have access) or post in your thread, and will be apply the changes yourself. Please don't e-mail the competition address as we don't monitor it as much as the forum :)

@eruiz00 If you can please upload the final version with source codes included for reference. I have uploaded your v1 with sources and your v2 without sources :)

Will try to add the hacks later tonight, if not tomorrow.

Sorry bock. Didnt read this before... im just finishing last veraion. Will upload all the final content soon.

Another great competition.

It is a joy to go through all the ROMs and see what everyone has come up with. Thanks to everyone that contributed.

When are the official results?

It would be nice to not count the note 2 on Spitfire SP-20 and 1969 for example, probably coming from a troll.

We de-troll the results, don't worry. We should end the voting soon, but Omar is a bit busy with some game he wrote and I'm a bit busy with real life, let's see when we find time.

Dont see why order or detroll the results. Everyone was nice submitting content. Was impressed by most of the uploads and the feeling that everyone here loves this mix of development, technical learning, those 8 bit old games, good music, demos, etc.

Yes, but downvotes can easily skew results with our small voter set. Abusive voting is not uniform.

Wow I hibernated. Didn't vote :-(

Maxim wrote

Yes, but downvotes can easily skew results with our small voter set. Abusive voting is not uniform.

Seconding that. Some less mature people gave a 1 or 2 to entries that had no fair reason to be down-voted this way, and skipped vote on the other entries. Or voted 9 for other entries. Either way with the small number of users here this is skewing the results quite a lot, so I think it is the right thing to do to cancel those. If we had thousands of votes it wouldn't matter.

The entries are great :)

Really sorry for the lack of update! Last month has been crazy for me. I have now sorted through the votes (removed a few abusives votes) and ran the average. The results are .... drummm roooollll

http://www.smspower.org/Competitions/Coding-2017
http://www.smspower.org/Competitions/Hacks-2017

Congratulations and thanks everyone for participating!
For some, hoping the competitions is only a step and maybe some of you would like to finish and improve their game further :)

Congratulations to the winner and to us all! :D :D

As a side note: I'm wondering how I could have got an higher score than PkK's and SteveProXNA's efforts. I believe your work guys was much better than mine, for what it's worth me saying it.

Spitfire SP 20 2nd and 1969 3rd, thank you Filipe Santos with all your accounts...

FYI the first shmup made with KiddEd is level 8 of Duke Nukem.

(Revo: All the votes are by valid active users, and we had to review them to avoid abuse/skew since the numbers are small)

I think everybody have a different way or criteria of voting. I agree that PkK and SteveProXNA efforts are probably more work than your sverx. Some are voting on technical effort, some based on graphics, or game design, some based on hardware compatibility. Hacks using KiddEd are similarly hard to evaluate for someone not deep down into using KiddEd.

Bock wrote

I agree that PkK and SteveProXNA efforts are probably more work than your sverx.

probably? ;)

Shame one year left to next compo. Is the fuel we need to supercharge coding powers....

Congrats to the winners and everyone who participated this year! I had a great time trying out your stuff!

eruiz00 wrote

Shame one year left to next compo.

You're welcome to release great games also between one compo and another, of course! :)

Also, we might have a devkitSMS-only competition later on, as we did last fall (in 2016). I can't still assure you that now, BTW.

Ummmm next game will be launched in summer. I enjoy too much the sms way even with its quirks to stop now. Btw assets2banks is wonderful :)

eruiz000 wrote

Btw assets2banks is wonderful

told ya! :D

Congratulations to all participants.

Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :(

I guess if I ever want to get out of the last place in these competitions I have to find why my games don't work on hardware.

Philipp

sverx wrote

Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :(

Thanks sverx - I'll be back! :)

PkK wrote

I guess if I ever want to get out of the last place in these competitions I have to find why my games don't work on hardware

That would certainly help.

I'm pretty sure that Io is underappreciated for other reasons, though. I can only speak for myself, of course, but I failed to cast a vote for it, because even though it seemed very interesting, I didn't have the time to sit down and learn the rules of that comparably complex game, so I felt like I didn't have the right to judge it.
Additionally, the SG-1000 graphics turned me off a bit, I must admit. Sorry.

sverx wrote

Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :(

Thanks. Maybe (hopefully) next time. :)

Just checking and PkK isn't last place, the numbers are mis-sorted.

He has 4.80 and the Candy demo has 4.69

What? no one able to switch a pair of rows in the final results?

:)

do you see any more errors? :)

Author	Message
tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 282	Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:15 am
tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 282	The one year i'm too busy to do a separate music entry, and there are no music entries? =( I'll try to test the entries tomorrow. But everyone who codes for the SMS, is a winner. :)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8214 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:13 am
	Everyone: if you want to update your entries, add better screenshots, etc. you can either edit the Wiki yourself (if you have access) or post in your thread, and will be apply the changes yourself. Please don't e-mail the competition address as we don't monitor it as much as the forum :) @eruiz00 If you can please upload the final version with source codes included for reference. I have uploaded your v1 with sources and your v2 without sources :) Will try to add the hacks later tonight, if not tomorrow.

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:40 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	I just fixed a few minor issues with the wiki entries, nothing fancy, and added devkitSMS and PSGlib tags so that they appears listed in the relevant pages. We had less entries this year, but the quality is high indeed!!! ... well, of course excluding my own entry ;)

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:52 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	I'm starting to feeling like "shouldn't we add a '9 ½' to the poll options?" because otherwise I have to award 9 to half of the entries, they really don't deserve any less, so I'm not going to give 8 to many just because I've got a personal preference...

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:58 am
	Perhaps we should change to 90s games magazine scoring, with the only possible values 70%, 80%, 90%, 91%, 92%, 93% and 94%.

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:13 am Last edited by sverx on Tue May 29, 2018 11:26 am; edited 1 time in total
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	or just add 9.1, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4 which is actually kind of equivalent... BTW I do understand that the voting phase is already on the way so we might possibly discuss this for the next year :)

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:42 am
	To be honest, I was joking. If they are so close then you must not be able to distinguish between them - or you can recalibrate your scale to open more granularity.

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:55 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	uh, ok. I never get jokes - I actually thought it was a good idea. Thanks for your suggestions, though.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:12 pm
	Hacks entries are now posted. Sorry, no music this year!

Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:12 pm
Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	Presentation video of the competition (in French): Code: Hack:

tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 282	Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:23 pm
tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 282	2017 is the year of the shmup. :)

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:03 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	How long the voting phase will last? I have just voted as I'm leaving in a few days... (and it's a pity I couldn't give some entries the time they deserved)

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:26 pm
	Not sure yet, usually we do about two weeks.

eruiz00 Joined: 28 Jan 2017 Posts: 377 Location: Málaga, Spain	Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 12:20 pm
	Bock wrote Everyone: if you want to update your entries, add better screenshots, etc. you can either edit the Wiki yourself (if you have access) or post in your thread, and will be apply the changes yourself. Please don't e-mail the competition address as we don't monitor it as much as the forum :) @eruiz00 If you can please upload the final version with source codes included for reference. I have uploaded your v1 with sources and your v2 without sources :) Will try to add the hacks later tonight, if not tomorrow. Sorry bock. Didnt read this before... im just finishing last veraion. Will upload all the final content soon.

psidum Joined: 01 Jan 2014 Posts: 329	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:55 pm
psidum Joined: 01 Jan 2014 Posts: 329	Another great competition. It is a joy to go through all the ROMs and see what everyone has come up with. Thanks to everyone that contributed.

Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:22 pm
Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	When are the official results? It would be nice to not count the note 2 on Spitfire SP-20 and 1969 for example, probably coming from a troll.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 6:26 pm
	We de-troll the results, don't worry. We should end the voting soon, but Omar is a bit busy with some game he wrote and I'm a bit busy with real life, let's see when we find time.

eruiz00 Joined: 28 Jan 2017 Posts: 377 Location: Málaga, Spain	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:43 pm
	Dont see why order or detroll the results. Everyone was nice submitting content. Was impressed by most of the uploads and the feeling that everyone here loves this mix of development, technical learning, those 8 bit old games, good music, demos, etc.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13291 Location: London	Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:20 pm
	Yes, but downvotes can easily skew results with our small voter set. Abusive voting is not uniform.

Niloct Joined: 25 Dec 2005 Posts: 580 Location: São Paulo - Brazil	Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:29 am
	Wow I hibernated. Didn't vote :-(

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8214 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:24 am
	Maxim wrote Yes, but downvotes can easily skew results with our small voter set. Abusive voting is not uniform. Seconding that. Some less mature people gave a 1 or 2 to entries that had no fair reason to be down-voted this way, and skipped vote on the other entries. Or voted 9 for other entries. Either way with the small number of users here this is skewing the results quite a lot, so I think it is the right thing to do to cancel those. If we had thousands of votes it wouldn't matter. The entries are great :)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8214 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Mon May 08, 2017 8:51 pm
	Really sorry for the lack of update! Last month has been crazy for me. I have now sorted through the votes (removed a few abusives votes) and ran the average. The results are .... drummm roooollll http://www.smspower.org/Competitions/Coding-2017 http://www.smspower.org/Competitions/Hacks-2017 Congratulations and thanks everyone for participating! For some, hoping the competitions is only a step and maybe some of you would like to finish and improve their game further :)

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 7:46 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Congratulations to the winner and to us all! :D :D As a side note: I'm wondering how I could have got an higher score than PkK's and SteveProXNA's efforts. I believe your work guys was much better than mine, for what it's worth me saying it.

Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:53 am
Revo Joined: 26 Jan 2014 Posts: 509	Spitfire SP 20 2nd and 1969 3rd, thank you Filipe Santos with all your accounts... FYI the first shmup made with KiddEd is level 8 of Duke Nukem.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8214 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 9:16 am
	(Revo: All the votes are by valid active users, and we had to review them to avoid abuse/skew since the numbers are small) I think everybody have a different way or criteria of voting. I agree that PkK and SteveProXNA efforts are probably more work than your sverx. Some are voting on technical effort, some based on graphics, or game design, some based on hardware compatibility. Hacks using KiddEd are similarly hard to evaluate for someone not deep down into using KiddEd.

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:05 pm
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Bock wrote I agree that PkK and SteveProXNA efforts are probably more work than your sverx. probably? ;)

eruiz00 Joined: 28 Jan 2017 Posts: 377 Location: Málaga, Spain	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 6:12 pm
	Shame one year left to next compo. Is the fuel we need to supercharge coding powers....

hang-on Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 572 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark	Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 8:03 pm
	Congrats to the winners and everyone who participated this year! I had a great time trying out your stuff!

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 7:45 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	eruiz00 wrote Shame one year left to next compo. You're welcome to release great games also between one compo and another, of course! :) Also, we might have a devkitSMS-only competition later on, as we did last fall (in 2016). I can't still assure you that now, BTW.

eruiz000 Guest	Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 12:54 pm
eruiz000 Guest	Ummmm next game will be launched in summer. I enjoy too much the sms way even with its quirks to stop now. Btw assets2banks is wonderful :)

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 1:58 pm
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	eruiz000 wrote Btw assets2banks is wonderful told ya! :D

Kagesan Joined: 01 Feb 2014 Posts: 530	Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 3:36 pm
Kagesan Joined: 01 Feb 2014 Posts: 530	Congratulations to all participants.

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:55 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :(

PkK Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 205 Location: Yach, Germany	Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:08 pm
	I guess if I ever want to get out of the last place in these competitions I have to find why my games don't work on hardware. Philipp

hang-on Joined: 23 Mar 2013 Posts: 572 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark	Posted: Thu May 11, 2017 6:39 pm
	sverx wrote Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :( Thanks sverx - I'll be back! :)

Kagesan Joined: 01 Feb 2014 Posts: 530	Posted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:10 pm
Kagesan Joined: 01 Feb 2014 Posts: 530	PkK wrote I guess if I ever want to get out of the last place in these competitions I have to find why my games don't work on hardware That would certainly help. I'm pretty sure that Io is underappreciated for other reasons, though. I can only speak for myself, of course, but I failed to cast a vote for it, because even though it seemed very interesting, I didn't have the time to sit down and learn the rules of that comparably complex game, so I felt like I didn't have the right to judge it. Additionally, the SG-1000 graphics turned me off a bit, I must admit. Sorry. sverx wrote Kagesan & hang-on: your entries have been greatly missed this year :( Thanks. Maybe (hopefully) next time. :)

nanochess Joined: 14 Aug 2013 Posts: 38 Location: Mexico, Mexico	Posted: Mon May 15, 2017 1:41 pm
	Just checking and PkK isn't last place, the numbers are mis-sorted. He has 4.80 and the Candy demo has 4.69

nanochess Joined: 14 Aug 2013 Posts: 38 Location: Mexico, Mexico	Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 2:31 am
	What? no one able to switch a pair of rows in the final results? :)

sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 8:20 am
sverx Joined: 05 Sep 2013 Posts: 2709	do you see any more errors? :)

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