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Afternoon,

I've been on a fact-finding mission and I figured the Sega 8-bit experts are better placed to help:

https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?posts/974527/

tl;dr - in the US, the initial batch of Sega Master System games pre-date the slogan "Now, there are no limits." becoming a registered trademark. That means everything from 1986 has this phrase marked with ℠, and almost(?) everything from 1987 has ®.

I'm led to believe the entire US 1986 product lineup was reprinted in 1987, so there are both ℠ and ® variants of the earliest Master System games. And I've found photographic evidence to support this... for everything except Teddy Boy (on card).

There are claims that a "Now, there are no limits®" Teddy Boy variant exists, but it would be nice to have proof - it's the only one I can't account for (that and the Light Phaser, though that's a bit of a faff). There are no copies on ebay right now and nobody has either scanned it or taken a picture - does it exist? Does anyone here have it?

For what it's worth, here's a list of games I can confirm have both variants:

Action Fighter
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Astro Warrior
Black Belt
Choplifter
F-16 Flying Falcon (card)
Fantasy Zone
Ghost House (card)
Great Baseball
Great Ice Hockey
Hang-On / Astro Warrior
Hang-On / Safari Hunt
Marksman Shooting & Trap Shooting
My Hero (card)
The Ninja
Rambo: Fire Blood Part II
Pro Wrestling
Space Harrier
Super Tennis (card)
TransBot (card)
World Grand Prix

We are tracking this in our scans' metadata:

- US scans with "Now there are no limits" and SM: https://www.smspower.org/Scans/Index?action=search&q=group%3Dscans+%24%3AReg...
- Scans with "Now there are no limits" and no SM (implying an (R) or nothing): https://www.smspower.org/Scans/Index?action=search&q=group%3Dscans+%24%3AReg...

Indeed no Teddy Boy in the latter list, although there is a European version.

Our scans are pretty complete and we have been looking for these variants for many years. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist though...

Rupert/James has a good list going, specific to PAL/Euro releases but it does cover US card games i believe https://shinobiman.proboards.com/thread/10465/1986-1990-european-variations-need...

Barney also has this
http://shinobiman.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&t...

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Black Squirrel Joined: 31 Dec 2020 Posts: 1	Teddy Boy, ® variant Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:54 pm
Black Squirrel Joined: 31 Dec 2020 Posts: 1	Afternoon, I've been on a fact-finding mission and I figured the Sega 8-bit experts are better placed to help: https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?posts/974527/ tl;dr - in the US, the initial batch of Sega Master System games pre-date the slogan "Now, there are no limits." becoming a registered trademark. That means everything from 1986 has this phrase marked with ℠, and almost(?) everything from 1987 has ®. I'm led to believe the entire US 1986 product lineup was reprinted in 1987, so there are both ℠ and ® variants of the earliest Master System games. And I've found photographic evidence to support this... for everything except Teddy Boy (on card). There are claims that a "Now, there are no limits®" Teddy Boy variant exists, but it would be nice to have proof - it's the only one I can't account for (that and the Light Phaser, though that's a bit of a faff). There are no copies on ebay right now and nobody has either scanned it or taken a picture - does it exist? Does anyone here have it? For what it's worth, here's a list of games I can confirm have both variants: Action Fighter Alex Kidd in Miracle World Astro Warrior Black Belt Choplifter F-16 Flying Falcon (card) Fantasy Zone Ghost House (card) Great Baseball Great Ice Hockey Hang-On / Astro Warrior Hang-On / Safari Hunt Marksman Shooting & Trap Shooting My Hero (card) The Ninja Rambo: Fire Blood Part II Pro Wrestling Space Harrier Super Tennis (card) TransBot (card) World Grand Prix

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 13504 Location: London	Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:22 pm
	We are tracking this in our scans' metadata: - US scans with "Now there are no limits" and SM: https://www.smspower.org/Scans/Index?action=search&q=group%3Dscans+%24%3AReg... - Scans with "Now there are no limits" and no SM (implying an (R) or nothing): https://www.smspower.org/Scans/Index?action=search&q=group%3Dscans+%24%3AReg... Indeed no Teddy Boy in the latter list, although there is a European version. Our scans are pretty complete and we have been looking for these variants for many years. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist though...

rastanfarian Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 22 Location: pennsylvania, u.s.a.	Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:19 pm
	Rupert/James has a good list going, specific to PAL/Euro releases but it does cover US card games i believe https://shinobiman.proboards.com/thread/10465/1986-1990-european-variations-need... Barney also has this http://shinobiman.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&t...

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