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Hi. I wondered many times if there exist a hacked ROM of GG's Sonic 1 with the Sonic's sprites well done. In the GG version, Sonic looks awful, while in the Master System version, he looks good, xD.

Does anyone knows if it exists?

welcome tailsnic! (I saw you in otrolado asking for the repro issue)

I don't think it exists, but it'll be nice to see!

kusfo wrote

welcome tailsnic! (I saw you in otrolado asking for the repro issue)

I don't think it exists, but it'll be nice to see!

Hi again. The repro PCB for 8mbit roms is making me nuts, because I don't find how to acquire it, xD. I opened a thread asking if it can be created from 0, so they told me that here is a person who makes them, but I can't contact him. At first I wanted to create the custom mapper, and then I discovered that the code from the ichigobankai's mapper is made by him, so I don't want to duplicate de PCB anymore. In this world we have to respect each others.

Refering to the rom, I would like to see it. The sprite from Master System version looks pretty good. Maybe I would do the hack someday.

About hacking the rom, some utilities like this could allow you to edit the graphics:

https://www.zophar.net/utilities/graphutil.html
http://www.smspower.org/Development/Tools

kusfo wrote

About hacking the rom, some utilities like this could allow you to edit the graphics:

https://www.zophar.net/utilities/graphutil.html
http://www.smspower.org/Development/Tools

Thanks, I appreciate it.

The proto has the SMS sprites.

Maxim wrote

The proto has the SMS sprites.

I didn't know it. I supose that the proto isn't complete or is not the same as the Master System version.

It's certainly not complete, but presumably a lot closer to what you want than a simple sprite hack (i.e. collision boxes should be better).

Yeah you're right those Sonic sprites look awful he seems not to have a nose, and making a hack to restore it, maybe is easier than you think, thanks to Master Tile Converter: http://jmimu.free.fr/mastertileconverter/

I always thought the gg sonic 1 sprites really suck :\

tailsnic wrote

The sprite from Master System version looks pretty good. Maybe I would do the hack someday.

I agree. Sonic 1 and 2 have great sprites but after that the master system sonic sprites sucked imo , sonic chaos for example is horrible.

FeRcHuLeS wrote

Yeah you're right those Sonic sprites look awful he seems not to have a nose, and making a hack to restore it, maybe is easier than you think, thanks to Master Tile Converter: http://jmimu.free.fr/mastertileconverter/

I have a problem with that tool. I tried to change the sprites, but the program shows all the colors bad, and I can't see what are the Sonic's sprites.

probably you can set some the palette, in order to be able to see correctly the sprite tiles

kusfo wrote

probably you can set some the palette, in order to be able to see correctly the sprite tiles

I'll try to change the palete. Thanks.

Try with the palette you can get from Meka or emulicious.

kusfo wrote

Try with the palette you can get from Meka or emulicious.

When I open the ROM in Master Tile Converter, I see this:

Even loading palette in raw mode from Meka, the appearance is the same.

YCjWWIul.jpg (139.02 KB)

Attachment fairy

You're seeing all the content of the rom, as it's not possible for the software to tell if some binary chunk is data, program or tiles. Just scroll trough the rom to see if you can see the tiles. Or maybe, they're compressed, so you'll need to tell which compression was used.

kusfo wrote

You're seeing all the content of the rom, as it's not possible for the software to tell if some binary chunk is data, program or tiles. Just scroll trough the rom to see if you can see the tiles. Or maybe, they're compressed, so you'll need to tell which compression was used.

I learned about that, it's quite difficult, but I found the tiles, xD. Thanks for the help.

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tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Is there a hack of GG Sonic 1 with SMS sprites? Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:34 am Last edited by tailsnic on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:59 am; edited 1 time in total
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Hi. I wondered many times if there exist a hacked ROM of GG's Sonic 1 with the Sonic's sprites well done. In the GG version, Sonic looks awful, while in the Master System version, he looks good, xD. Does anyone knows if it exists?

kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:40 am
kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	welcome tailsnic! (I saw you in otrolado asking for the repro issue) I don't think it exists, but it'll be nice to see!

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:51 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	kusfo wrote welcome tailsnic! (I saw you in otrolado asking for the repro issue) I don't think it exists, but it'll be nice to see! Hi again. The repro PCB for 8mbit roms is making me nuts, because I don't find how to acquire it, xD. I opened a thread asking if it can be created from 0, so they told me that here is a person who makes them, but I can't contact him. At first I wanted to create the custom mapper, and then I discovered that the code from the ichigobankai's mapper is made by him, so I don't want to duplicate de PCB anymore. In this world we have to respect each others. Refering to the rom, I would like to see it. The sprite from Master System version looks pretty good. Maybe I would do the hack someday.

kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:01 am
kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	About hacking the rom, some utilities like this could allow you to edit the graphics: https://www.zophar.net/utilities/graphutil.html http://www.smspower.org/Development/Tools

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:04 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	kusfo wrote About hacking the rom, some utilities like this could allow you to edit the graphics: https://www.zophar.net/utilities/graphutil.html http://www.smspower.org/Development/Tools Thanks, I appreciate it.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:02 pm
	The proto has the SMS sprites.

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:26 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Maxim wrote The proto has the SMS sprites. I didn't know it. I supose that the proto isn't complete or is not the same as the Master System version.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:50 pm
	It's certainly not complete, but presumably a lot closer to what you want than a simple sprite hack (i.e. collision boxes should be better).

FeRcHuLeS Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 228	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:17 am
FeRcHuLeS Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 228	Yeah you're right those Sonic sprites look awful he seems not to have a nose, and making a hack to restore it, maybe is easier than you think, thanks to Master Tile Converter: http://jmimu.free.fr/mastertileconverter/

Filipe Santos Joined: 27 Feb 2017 Posts: 145 Location: Northern Ireland	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:31 am
	I always thought the gg sonic 1 sprites really suck :\

Filipe Santos Joined: 27 Feb 2017 Posts: 145 Location: Northern Ireland	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:33 am
	tailsnic wrote The sprite from Master System version looks pretty good. Maybe I would do the hack someday. I agree. Sonic 1 and 2 have great sprites but after that the master system sonic sprites sucked imo , sonic chaos for example is horrible.

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:00 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	FeRcHuLeS wrote Yeah you're right those Sonic sprites look awful he seems not to have a nose, and making a hack to restore it, maybe is easier than you think, thanks to Master Tile Converter: http://jmimu.free.fr/mastertileconverter/ I have a problem with that tool. I tried to change the sprites, but the program shows all the colors bad, and I can't see what are the Sonic's sprites.

kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:24 am
kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	probably you can set some the palette, in order to be able to see correctly the sprite tiles

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:16 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	kusfo wrote probably you can set some the palette, in order to be able to see correctly the sprite tiles I'll try to change the palete. Thanks.

kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:19 am
kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Try with the palette you can get from Meka or emulicious.

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:43 pm
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	kusfo wrote Try with the palette you can get from Meka or emulicious. When I open the ROM in Master Tile Converter, I see this: Even loading palette in raw mode from Meka, the appearance is the same. YCjWWIul.jpg (139.02 KB) Attachment fairy

kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:29 am
kusfo Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 886 Location: Spain	You're seeing all the content of the rom, as it's not possible for the software to tell if some binary chunk is data, program or tiles. Just scroll trough the rom to see if you can see the tiles. Or maybe, they're compressed, so you'll need to tell which compression was used.

tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:08 am
tailsnic Joined: 17 Mar 2017 Posts: 46 Location: Spain	kusfo wrote You're seeing all the content of the rom, as it's not possible for the software to tell if some binary chunk is data, program or tiles. Just scroll trough the rom to see if you can see the tiles. Or maybe, they're compressed, so you'll need to tell which compression was used. I learned about that, it's quite difficult, but I found the tiles, xD. Thanks for the help.

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