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Before we forget: can all winners (ie. all entrants) please send their postal address details so, when we ever get it done, we can send their prizes? Send by email to competition@smspower.org or PM to me.

As I announced, feel free to use my share of prize to fund for the server :)

What about using a snail maze game picture for the t-shirt ?

I guess there's color limitations so something featuring characters from various kick-arse games would not be too possible without things looking wrong ?

Last time we looked (3 years ago) yes, most shops were offering 4 colors shirts with limited palette. So it is difficult to get fully accurate sprites colors. Probably other services can other more colors?

Hey,
what happened to the T-Shirts?
It is summer here and I walk topless, because my cool AmigaOS 4.0 T-Shirt is outdated and the Power.org T-Shirt is black and gets hot very easy.

We need someone to organise this, we also need to make a design (once the limitations are known). Is anyone interested?

Maxim wrote

We need someone to organise this, we also need to make a design (once the limitations are known). Is anyone interested?

teniski.eu have competetive prices - max $5 american dollar for shirt depending on the model. We only need the design and the worldwide shipper (TNT, DHL, UPS, post) prices which may come more expensive than the shirts itself.

What is the shirt process? If it's cafepress-style direct printing then it will fall apart very quickly. Screen printing is better quality but expensive, and limited colours.

For a .eu site, they seem to be lacking other languages for me to understand :)

I am hesitant to do this myself because I live in one of the most expensive parts of Europe.

The shirtmaker is unlikely to want to ship everything individually; last time, we had to have someone do the shipping by hand.

Maxim wrote

What is the shirt process? If it's cafepress-style direct printing then it will fall apart very quickly. Screen printing is better quality but expensive, and limited colours.

For a .eu site, they seem to be lacking other languages for me to understand :)

I am hesitant to do this myself because I live in one of the most expensive parts of Europe.

The shirtmaker is unlikely to want to ship everything individually; last time, we had to have someone do the shipping by hand.

I called them by phone, they answered they use pholio and direct printing.
They offer discounts for quantity. Minimum is 1 T-Shirt.

Questions may be asked at info@elfite.com
I can buy them and send over the world. The post is the cheapest, but not the most sure. UPS is best, but the prices are starting from $40 last time I used them.
TNT and DHL are cheaper, but still expensive.

OK let's get this done before a new competition start :)

1.
I checked my local t-shirt shop. They have variety of base tshirt/polos/shirts including a Turquoise color that's close enough to SMS Power background color if we want to use that.

Over them they can do:
- Full-color heat transcript print. It looks pretty but its clearly something stuck over a color and is more likely to fall apart after a few washes.
- Cutting print, using a single color chosen from a given palette of a dozen they have.
- Silk screen print, can use 1 or 2 colors of your choice. More expensive (within budget). You can feel the matter but it seems solid.

Not sure if the vocabulary match the one used in the west. Anyway I suppose under those restriction (please someone react if you know or better techniques) we would do better with a single color drawing like we had in 2006.

2.
Or we can use CafePress which I guess as suggested by Maxim is the equivalent of "Full-color heat transcript print". http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/

In both cases I'll handle it and ship back to everyone.

Please think and post about patterns that would fit nicely in 1 or 2 color.
Old 2006 thread: http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6752

I'm fine with anything that's not peeling off...

The silkscreen process works better with thicker, more solid lines. I don't know if others have observed it, but the front of my 2006 shirt has held up much better than the thin line diagram on the back. Keeping that in mind, I came up with a suggestion last year in this post (the Alex Kidd design) that might be good.

Some more hardy material would be good too, I totalled my other shirt, its got sunfading. Its at the stage I can't wear it no more :( oh and also my dogs decided to take a small chunk out of it :@

DMEnduro wrote

The silkscreen process works better with thicker, more solid lines. I don't know if others have observed it, but the front of my 2006 shirt has held up much better than the thin line diagram on the back. Keeping that in mind, I came up with a suggestion last year in this post (the Alex Kidd design) that might be good.

Silkscreened shirts often go to 2-colour to use one as a "halo" to get the line thickness. But everything I've heard suggests it's the way to go.

As I said before, export Alex Kidd is lame (and kind his eyes are kind of creepy-looking), Japanese Alex Kidd is much cooler, if you feel like some more vectoring.

I could ask my friend, he makes tshirts and is able to silkscreen.

BTW: Hi guys! Long time no see! (Yes, i've been busy)

We need a design. The production will be easy.
Someone vectorize a nice representive SMS artwork/picture!

I guess we want to vectorise box art rather than huge vectored pixels. Shaded style (e.g. Psycho Fox) and later SMS games are hard to vector, cartoony ones will work better - but early export covers are so lame...

I suggest

as before.

(I have 0% ability to achieve this, by the way. I suffered hugely in Illustrator to make the PS retranslation manual, for example, and then uninstalled it.)

Edit: Attached is what an online auto-vectoriser made of that cover. It looked better before I tried to reduce the colour palette...

alexkiddinmiracleworld-front2.zip (171.24 KB)

How about this?

alexkiddjapcover.png (25.67 KB)

rendered png

alexkiddjapcover.zip (19.8 KB)

zipped svg

It seems to suffer from the crapness of the autovectorisation :( I spent about 2 minutes at http://vectormagic.com - maybe better to spend longer. As I said, the palette reduction seemed to screw it up but there wasn't an easy undo.

How would it look without color? (as in, one tracing color over a tshirt)
Perhaps even with the other details from the box.
Or you guys think it's better using a technique that is not silkscreen?

Here's a quick and dirty conversion to a single colour. It would look better in black on a light shirt, on SMS Power blue it is lacking contrast but inverting to white looks bad.

Image1.png (30.17 KB)

Here's a crappy photo of (part of) the design for a t-shirt you get free with an Edge magazine subscription. It's nice to have that "you need to know what it is" look to it, so maybe we could do something similar?

DSC00689.JPG (320.67 KB)

OK, so what about using the old design?
http://www.smspower.org/forums/files/dcp0474pj2_308.jpg
http://www.smspower.org/forums/files/dcp0473tt8_133.jpg

Except
- Black or another darker color instead of SMS Power blue.
- Updated for 2009
- Add a clarifying statement "Sega 8-bit preservetion and fanaticism" or <insert>

Yes.

I have ordered the tshirts now.

- They are darkish colors with the SMS design on the front. Anonymous with all text removed to increase the silk-printing quality and make it a total fashion item.

- I made cute stickers as well !

photo6.jpg (130.69 KB)

The sticker colours look good, except for the Psycho Hippo who looks a little ill :)

Sweet! It takes a special kind of fanatic to make stickers of the WB3 hand sprite. :)

I got the shirts and stickers now!
I'll try ship shortly.

Cheers Bock!

Did you end up getting my PM about my shirt size?

Cheers,
Scott

I shipped everything recently btw.
I am really sorry for the <insert> delay.

I hope you used a traced/insured delivery service... Italian mailmen are known to steal packages whenever they can. I asked a friend to send me something from England once, and I told him to use the best delivery option even if it was more expensive because I was going to refund him... But he used the standard delivery option, I never got that package :(

The Italian ~~thieves~~ postmen are famous worldwide... just see all the eBay sellers who won't post to Italy :)

(Ironically, most UK postmen are ex-convicts. And they mostly just steal cash from birthday cards.)

Thanks for the update!

Also there is a reason why they say don't post cash in the mail :P

Sorry I sent normal, not insured (I already went way over budget and I thought it wasn't worth bothering so much). I have 1 spare shirt in case one goes missing.

I'm not so happy with how the shirts turned out, we need a proper designer next time. The stickers are quite cute though. Not that I usually use any stickers, but my phone looks much better now.

Mine arrived.

Maxim wrote

Mine arrived.

I'll wait a few more days but I think the postmen added yet another piece to their collection of things stolen from me :v

Got mine too.

Nice stickers. :)

Got mine a couple of days ago. I think the stripped down design is pretty damn sweet. Less is more.

My shirt just rolled up.. It arrived even with the wrong post code on it!

My T-Shirt arrived today. Nice greenish color, I like it. The stickers are also nice.

I got my shirt today, been wearing it all day now ^^

So, Italian postmen aren't that bad after all:

I love it :)

I also got mine just recently!
Thanks everybody for a great t-shirt and a great forum!!!

Got mine today.
Elegant looking shirt.
And enough stickers for me to decorate the whole house.
Fantastic!

Is it too late to purchase a tee shirt Bock? They're really rather good!

The only way to get one is to enter the competitions :) We'll probably have some ending in March 2011...

(Or you can get your own printed, the artwork is around the forums somewhere.)

Maxim wrote

The only way to get one is to enter the competitions :) We'll probably have some ending in March 2011...

(Or you can get your own printed, the artwork is around the forums somewhere.)

Ah, shame. If there is a competition I can enter, I will, I have NO skills mind ;)

Maybe competitions should be announced rather soon, in case programmers want to get some good amount of time into their entry.

Well, provisionally, there's a competition for 2011 ending on 27th March. If that one doesn't happen, there'll be one ending 27th March 2012. If that one doesn't happen... etc.

I expect we will do something. To be honest, the hardest part is organising the shirts :) so if anyone (we can trust) can commit to helping with that it'd be great.

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Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Competition 2009: T-Shirt / Prizes Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:30 pm
	Before we forget: can all winners (ie. all entrants) please send their postal address details so, when we ever get it done, we can send their prizes? Send by email to competition@smspower.org or PM to me.

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:14 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	As I announced, feel free to use my share of prize to fund for the server :)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:51 am
	What about using a snail maze game picture for the t-shirt ?

TmEE Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 853 Location: Estonia, Rapla city	Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:40 pm
	I guess there's color limitations so something featuring characters from various kick-arse games would not be too possible without things looking wrong ?

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:50 am
	Last time we looked (3 years ago) yes, most shops were offering 4 colors shirts with limited palette. So it is difficult to get fully accurate sprites colors. Probably other services can other more colors?

drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	T-shirts Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:02 am
drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Hey, what happened to the T-Shirts? It is summer here and I walk topless, because my cool AmigaOS 4.0 T-Shirt is outdated and the Power.org T-Shirt is black and gets hot very easy.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:09 am
	We need someone to organise this, we also need to make a design (once the limitations are known). Is anyone interested?

drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:32 am
drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Maxim wrote We need someone to organise this, we also need to make a design (once the limitations are known). Is anyone interested? teniski.eu have competetive prices - max $5 american dollar for shirt depending on the model. We only need the design and the worldwide shipper (TNT, DHL, UPS, post) prices which may come more expensive than the shirts itself.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:52 am
	What is the shirt process? If it's cafepress-style direct printing then it will fall apart very quickly. Screen printing is better quality but expensive, and limited colours. For a .eu site, they seem to be lacking other languages for me to understand :) I am hesitant to do this myself because I live in one of the most expensive parts of Europe. The shirtmaker is unlikely to want to ship everything individually; last time, we had to have someone do the shipping by hand.

drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:42 am
drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Maxim wrote What is the shirt process? If it's cafepress-style direct printing then it will fall apart very quickly. Screen printing is better quality but expensive, and limited colours. For a .eu site, they seem to be lacking other languages for me to understand :) I am hesitant to do this myself because I live in one of the most expensive parts of Europe. The shirtmaker is unlikely to want to ship everything individually; last time, we had to have someone do the shipping by hand. I called them by phone, they answered they use pholio and direct printing. They offer discounts for quantity. Minimum is 1 T-Shirt. Questions may be asked at info@elfite.com I can buy them and send over the world. The post is the cheapest, but not the most sure. UPS is best, but the prices are starting from $40 last time I used them. TNT and DHL are cheaper, but still expensive.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:05 am
	OK let's get this done before a new competition start :) 1. I checked my local t-shirt shop. They have variety of base tshirt/polos/shirts including a Turquoise color that's close enough to SMS Power background color if we want to use that. Over them they can do: - Full-color heat transcript print. It looks pretty but its clearly something stuck over a color and is more likely to fall apart after a few washes. - Cutting print, using a single color chosen from a given palette of a dozen they have. - Silk screen print, can use 1 or 2 colors of your choice. More expensive (within budget). You can feel the matter but it seems solid. Not sure if the vocabulary match the one used in the west. Anyway I suppose under those restriction (please someone react if you know or better techniques) we would do better with a single color drawing like we had in 2006. 2. Or we can use CafePress which I guess as suggested by Maxim is the equivalent of "Full-color heat transcript print". http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/ In both cases I'll handle it and ship back to everyone. Please think and post about patterns that would fit nicely in 1 or 2 color. Old 2006 thread: http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6752

TmEE Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 853 Location: Estonia, Rapla city	Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:04 am
	I'm fine with anything that's not peeling off...

DMEnduro Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 420 Location: Australia	Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:23 am
	The silkscreen process works better with thicker, more solid lines. I don't know if others have observed it, but the front of my 2006 shirt has held up much better than the thin line diagram on the back. Keeping that in mind, I came up with a suggestion last year in this post (the Alex Kidd design) that might be good.

Jacko Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1464 Location: Sunny ol Tamworth, New England NSW AU	Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:54 am
	Some more hardy material would be good too, I totalled my other shirt, its got sunfading. Its at the stage I can't wear it no more :( oh and also my dogs decided to take a small chunk out of it :@

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:22 pm
	DMEnduro wrote The silkscreen process works better with thicker, more solid lines. I don't know if others have observed it, but the front of my 2006 shirt has held up much better than the thin line diagram on the back. Keeping that in mind, I came up with a suggestion last year in this post (the Alex Kidd design) that might be good. Silkscreened shirts often go to 2-colour to use one as a "halo" to get the line thickness. But everything I've heard suggests it's the way to go. As I said before, export Alex Kidd is lame (and kind his eyes are kind of creepy-looking), Japanese Alex Kidd is much cooler, if you feel like some more vectoring.

SteveSMS Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 220	Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:01 am
SteveSMS Joined: 04 Sep 2005 Posts: 220	I could ask my friend, he makes tshirts and is able to silkscreen. BTW: Hi guys! Long time no see! (Yes, i've been busy)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:25 pm
	We need a design. The production will be easy. Someone vectorize a nice representive SMS artwork/picture!

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:24 pm Last edited by Maxim on Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:04 am; edited 1 time in total
	I guess we want to vectorise box art rather than huge vectored pixels. Shaded style (e.g. Psycho Fox) and later SMS games are hard to vector, cartoony ones will work better - but early export covers are so lame... I suggest as before. (I have 0% ability to achieve this, by the way. I suffered hugely in Illustrator to make the PS retranslation manual, for example, and then uninstalled it.) Edit: Attached is what an online auto-vectoriser made of that cover. It looked better before I tried to reduce the colour palette... alexkiddinmiracleworld-front2.zip (171.24 KB)

DMEnduro Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 420 Location: Australia	Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:42 am
	How about this? alexkiddjapcover.png (25.67 KB) rendered png alexkiddjapcover.zip (19.8 KB) zipped svg

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:08 am
	It seems to suffer from the crapness of the autovectorisation :( I spent about 2 minutes at http://vectormagic.com - maybe better to spend longer. As I said, the palette reduction seemed to screw it up but there wasn't an easy undo.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:41 am
	How would it look without color? (as in, one tracing color over a tshirt) Perhaps even with the other details from the box. Or you guys think it's better using a technique that is not silkscreen?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:54 pm
	Here's a quick and dirty conversion to a single colour. It would look better in black on a light shirt, on SMS Power blue it is lacking contrast but inverting to white looks bad. Image1.png (30.17 KB)

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:48 am
	Here's a crappy photo of (part of) the design for a t-shirt you get free with an Edge magazine subscription. It's nice to have that "you need to know what it is" look to it, so maybe we could do something similar? DSC00689.JPG (320.67 KB)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:33 am
	OK, so what about using the old design? http://www.smspower.org/forums/files/dcp0474pj2_308.jpg http://www.smspower.org/forums/files/dcp0473tt8_133.jpg Except - Black or another darker color instead of SMS Power blue. - Updated for 2009 - Add a clarifying statement "Sega 8-bit preservetion and fanaticism" or <insert>

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:02 am
	Yes.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:41 am
	I have ordered the tshirts now. - They are darkish colors with the SMS design on the front. Anonymous with all text removed to increase the silk-printing quality and make it a total fashion item. - I made cute stickers as well ! photo6.jpg (130.69 KB)

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:05 am
	The sticker colours look good, except for the Psycho Hippo who looks a little ill :)

Johannes Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 24 Location: Uppsala, Sweden	Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:22 pm
	Sweet! It takes a special kind of fanatic to make stickers of the WB3 hand sprite. :)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:23 am
	I got the shirts and stickers now! I'll try ship shortly.

Jacko Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1464 Location: Sunny ol Tamworth, New England NSW AU	Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:19 am
	Cheers Bock! Did you end up getting my PM about my shirt size? Cheers, Scott

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:17 am
	I shipped everything recently btw. I am really sorry for the <insert> delay.

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:54 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	I hope you used a traced/insured delivery service... Italian mailmen are known to steal packages whenever they can. I asked a friend to send me something from England once, and I told him to use the best delivery option even if it was more expensive because I was going to refund him... But he used the standard delivery option, I never got that package :(

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:41 pm
	The Italian ~~thieves~~ postmen are famous worldwide... just see all the eBay sellers who won't post to Italy :) (Ironically, most UK postmen are ex-convicts. And they mostly just steal cash from birthday cards.)

Jacko Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1464 Location: Sunny ol Tamworth, New England NSW AU	Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:35 am
	Thanks for the update! Also there is a reason why they say don't post cash in the mail :P

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8702 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:40 am
	Sorry I sent normal, not insured (I already went way over budget and I thought it wasn't worth bothering so much). I have 1 spare shirt in case one goes missing. I'm not so happy with how the shirts turned out, we need a proper designer next time. The stickers are quite cute though. Not that I usually use any stickers, but my phone looks much better now.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:06 pm
	Mine arrived.

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:36 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	Maxim wrote Mine arrived. I'll wait a few more days but I think the postmen added yet another piece to their collection of things stolen from me :v

Grz- Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 16 Location: France	Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:03 am
Grz- Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 16 Location: France	Got mine too. Nice stickers. :)

Johannes Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 24 Location: Uppsala, Sweden	Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:46 pm
	Got mine a couple of days ago. I think the stripped down design is pretty damn sweet. Less is more.

Jacko Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1464 Location: Sunny ol Tamworth, New England NSW AU	Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:52 am
	My shirt just rolled up.. It arrived even with the wrong post code on it!

drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:57 pm
drHirudo Joined: 14 Mar 2009 Posts: 16 Location: Sofia	My T-Shirt arrived today. Nice greenish color, I like it. The stickers are also nice.

TmEE Joined: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 853 Location: Estonia, Rapla city	Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:50 pm
	I got my shirt today, been wearing it all day now ^^

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:06 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1378 Location: italy	So, Italian postmen aren't that bad after all: I love it :)

LieMfB Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 26 Location: Sweden	Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:11 am
LieMfB Joined: 25 Mar 2009 Posts: 26 Location: Sweden	I also got mine just recently! Thanks everybody for a great t-shirt and a great forum!!!

tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 297	Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:28 pm
tibone Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 297	Got mine today. Elegant looking shirt. And enough stickers for me to decorate the whole house. Fantastic!

chewy Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 27 Location: Aylesbury, UK	Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:56 pm
	Is it too late to purchase a tee shirt Bock? They're really rather good!

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:41 pm
	The only way to get one is to enter the competitions :) We'll probably have some ending in March 2011... (Or you can get your own printed, the artwork is around the forums somewhere.)

chewy Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 27 Location: Aylesbury, UK	Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:56 pm
	Maxim wrote The only way to get one is to enter the competitions :) We'll probably have some ending in March 2011... (Or you can get your own printed, the artwork is around the forums somewhere.) Ah, shame. If there is a competition I can enter, I will, I have NO skills mind ;)

DMEnduro Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 420 Location: Australia	Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:02 am
	Maybe competitions should be announced rather soon, in case programmers want to get some good amount of time into their entry.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14939 Location: London	Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:07 am
	Well, provisionally, there's a competition for 2011 ending on 27th March. If that one doesn't happen, there'll be one ending 27th March 2012. If that one doesn't happen... etc. I expect we will do something. To be honest, the hardest part is organising the shirts :) so if anyone (we can trust) can commit to helping with that it'd be great.

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