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Maxim, in the Factory Panic maps thread wrote

I look forward to future contributions :)

Since I didn't want to disappoint Maxim, I decided to start working on more maps, and I chose Pengo.

Now, a couple of questions.

1: I am not sure if I should upload the raw maps, or if I should highlight the eggs. Let me provide an example to show you what I mean. Note that I didn't attach the following images since they're temporary, I didn't even pngout them, they just serve as an example.

These are the maps of the first 8 levels (out of 64):

And these are the same maps, with highlighted eggs:

I already have all the maps without the eggs, I would need some time to prepare the ones with the eggs. Let me know which kind is preferred so I can work on them.

2: How am I supposed to pick a significant 100×100 thumbnail out of a 104×120 map?

1. Do what pleases you the most. Mapping is somewhat subjective much of the time. If the egg locations are a horrible spoiler then maybe don't? Maybe I could add "spoiler" support to the site, so marked pages have a click-through...
2. Just take the middle in the absence of anything more reasonable. It's a bit wasteful but I imagine these are the smallest maps we'll see.

Aren't maps spoiler by definition ?

The egg locations aren't a spoiler, as they are highlighted in this very way (I didn't invent this green shade, it is used in game) every once in a while, including the beginning of the level. I think they should be included, even though this means I'll have more work to do. Yay.

As for the thumbnails, ok. I wonder if there is a way to batch crop a bunch of files...

Irfanview will do the batch crop for you. I recommend it for this sort if thing, it's very fast.

Maps are kind of a spoiler by definition, but you can make them less so by omitting items or enemies, and not highlighting routes and secrets, but a lot of the time the map is of no real use except for looking pretty.

Well I prepared all the 64 maps with the eggs, since it makes more sense in my opinion. I attached them to this post for the usual review before I upload them.
If you have the tools to make thumbnails quickly, feel free to help me :)

Pengo Maps.rar (36.23 KB)

All the maps!

There's no need for the review stage any more, your maps are all fine. For reference, I spent about 20s configuring Irfanview and it then took about 1s to do the cropping :) Imagemagick can probably do the same if you prefer that sort of thing. I also added them (with some lazy naming as it's easier for me that way):

http://www.smspower.org/Maps/Pengo-GG

An alternative in cases like this (small maps) is to tile them into a single image, e.g. Puzzle Bobble. You could use the yellow frame as seen in-game to separate them.

Awesome, thanks! :D

Which means I can start working on my next map project...

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Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Level maps: Pengo (Game Gear) Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:22 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Maxim, in the Factory Panic maps thread wrote I look forward to future contributions :) Since I didn't want to disappoint Maxim, I decided to start working on more maps, and I chose Pengo. Now, a couple of questions. 1: I am not sure if I should upload the raw maps, or if I should highlight the eggs. Let me provide an example to show you what I mean. Note that I didn't attach the following images since they're temporary, I didn't even pngout them, they just serve as an example. These are the maps of the first 8 levels (out of 64): And these are the same maps, with highlighted eggs: I already have all the maps without the eggs, I would need some time to prepare the ones with the eggs. Let me know which kind is preferred so I can work on them. 2: How am I supposed to pick a significant 100×100 thumbnail out of a 104×120 map?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:34 pm
	1. Do what pleases you the most. Mapping is somewhat subjective much of the time. If the egg locations are a horrible spoiler then maybe don't? Maybe I could add "spoiler" support to the site, so marked pages have a click-through... 2. Just take the middle in the absence of anything more reasonable. It's a bit wasteful but I imagine these are the smallest maps we'll see.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8652 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:37 pm
	Aren't maps spoiler by definition ?

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:24 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	The egg locations aren't a spoiler, as they are highlighted in this very way (I didn't invent this green shade, it is used in game) every once in a while, including the beginning of the level. I think they should be included, even though this means I'll have more work to do. Yay. As for the thumbnails, ok. I wonder if there is a way to batch crop a bunch of files...

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:22 pm
	Irfanview will do the batch crop for you. I recommend it for this sort if thing, it's very fast. Maps are kind of a spoiler by definition, but you can make them less so by omitting items or enemies, and not highlighting routes and secrets, but a lot of the time the map is of no real use except for looking pretty.

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 6:23 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Well I prepared all the 64 maps with the eggs, since it makes more sense in my opinion. I attached them to this post for the usual review before I upload them. If you have the tools to make thumbnails quickly, feel free to help me :) Pengo Maps.rar (36.23 KB) All the maps!

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:04 pm
	There's no need for the review stage any more, your maps are all fine. For reference, I spent about 20s configuring Irfanview and it then took about 1s to do the cropping :) Imagemagick can probably do the same if you prefer that sort of thing. I also added them (with some lazy naming as it's easier for me that way): http://www.smspower.org/Maps/Pengo-GG An alternative in cases like this (small maps) is to tile them into a single image, e.g. Puzzle Bobble. You could use the yellow frame as seen in-game to separate them.

Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:31 pm
Tom Joined: 16 May 2002 Posts: 1356 Location: italy	Awesome, thanks! :D Which means I can start working on my next map project...

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