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There's a new site music section now open at

http://www.smspower.org/music/

It is wiki-based so forum members can contribute, edit and correct things (we'll be keeping an eye out for abusers). I am slowly adding VGM packs, but most things are now migrated over from the old music section and somewhat updated for 2009.

One thing I didn't do yet is the non-VGM section. I was wondering if it's worth keeping? What do you think?

Please point out any problems you find. Known issues:
- logo says VGMs on every page
- IE sucks at transparent PNGs

What about another, other section for chiptunes? If we had a nice section for chiptunes people might be tempted by seeing their name in white on blue and have more motivation to compose.

I've been leaching all the Sega 8-bit chiptune vgms I can get my grubby hands on and would be happy to donate them.

Hmm, that's true. There are a lot around, but on the other hand posting leeched VGMs might cause some friction.

I'll look into adding a chiptune section. How do you suggest we categorise it? At the moment "VGMs" means game rips and "Non-VGM" means original stuff, with "competitions" placed separately. "Chiptune" doesn't quite cut it; "Original composition" doesn't cover rearrangements; "Homebrew" perhaps?

Can't get into the homebrew page

That's because it wasn't made yet. I made the placeholder a bit better now.

You are right about possible difficulties from posting vgm files without permission. We could certainly ask larger collections like Winter Chip and the more prolific composers/arrangers, who really are responsible for the vast majority of tunes.

My vote right now goes for naming the section "Chiptunes". You are absolutely right that the term is lacking - there are lots of arrangements of game music. But I don't think "Original Arrangements" has quite the zing and I think people won't be too surprised by what they get if they head over to the "chiptunes" section.

But "Homebrew" also works, by that criterion.

I think I'll stick with "Homebrew" now. It has nice parallels with the homebrew software side. I amended the index descriptions to be simpler and (hopefully) clearer.

I think it's worth contacting original authors directly to see if they're interested. Maybe we can list off-site links if they don't like the co-hosting (also, to be honest we don't have room for 1000 MP3s), I can make the listing handle multiple cases easily enough. The homebrew listing is distinctly alpha right now - would you like to suggest what info we ought to have?

...all old "non VGM" are now listed in "Homebrew". Now I need to move all the competition entries in there...

...done. I also added support for external links instead of local downloads (the 2009 entries link to the forum pages).

Maxim :P You may wanna fix this link on the index page of the website ;)

http://www.smspower.org/music/index.shtml

Its dead for some reason

I fixed it.

Just had a thought today how nice it would be to have transcriptions for the music. Do you think this would be worth adding to the wiki?

As in sheet music or tabs or something? I don't see why not. Produce some and I'll see about fitting it in...

VGM list page doesn't show "Tintin in Tibet"'s system (Game Gear).

That's because there's no page at http://www.smspower.org/Games/TintinInTibet-GG yet.

I've added some code to the site that allows it to produce playlists for VGM packs. Page editors should see a "Regenerate" link which they can click on when the pack is updated to refresh the playlist.

Playlists are a good addition. :)

However why showing so much information? There's a lot of redundancy and details. I think for the end user we would just want to display Title+Length (maybe Notes? Size?). The rest are mostly redundant and displayed once in the header.

Now its perfectly possible for editors purpose to keep the full table generated somewhere as well, but showing it fully to normal user is quite dry.

A short version with only Title+Length track listing would be great if displayed directly in the Games pages.

Well, I went for "everything" first... and it's useful for checking tags. I may make it more filterable.

Edit: done. Click through for the full-fat playlist.

The VGMs index now has a gratuitous CoverFlow(TM)(R) thing at the top. I may see if I can repurpose this later for cover images.

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Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	New music/VGM section Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:51 pm
	There's a new site music section now open at http://www.smspower.org/music/ It is wiki-based so forum members can contribute, edit and correct things (we'll be keeping an eye out for abusers). I am slowly adding VGM packs, but most things are now migrated over from the old music section and somewhat updated for 2009. One thing I didn't do yet is the non-VGM section. I was wondering if it's worth keeping? What do you think? Please point out any problems you find. Known issues: - logo says VGMs on every page - IE sucks at transparent PNGs

Mike C Joined: 10 Oct 1999 Posts: 211 Location: Lebanon, New Hampshire, USA	Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:24 am
	What about another, other section for chiptunes? If we had a nice section for chiptunes people might be tempted by seeing their name in white on blue and have more motivation to compose. I've been leaching all the Sega 8-bit chiptune vgms I can get my grubby hands on and would be happy to donate them.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:48 am
	Hmm, that's true. There are a lot around, but on the other hand posting leeched VGMs might cause some friction. I'll look into adding a chiptune section. How do you suggest we categorise it? At the moment "VGMs" means game rips and "Non-VGM" means original stuff, with "competitions" placed separately. "Chiptune" doesn't quite cut it; "Original composition" doesn't cover rearrangements; "Homebrew" perhaps?

furanku Joined: 10 Dec 2000 Posts: 592 Location: Australia and Japan	Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:45 am
	Can't get into the homebrew page

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:53 pm
	That's because it wasn't made yet. I made the placeholder a bit better now.

Mike C Joined: 10 Oct 1999 Posts: 211 Location: Lebanon, New Hampshire, USA	Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:44 pm
	You are right about possible difficulties from posting vgm files without permission. We could certainly ask larger collections like Winter Chip and the more prolific composers/arrangers, who really are responsible for the vast majority of tunes. My vote right now goes for naming the section "Chiptunes". You are absolutely right that the term is lacking - there are lots of arrangements of game music. But I don't think "Original Arrangements" has quite the zing and I think people won't be too surprised by what they get if they head over to the "chiptunes" section. But "Homebrew" also works, by that criterion.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:50 pm
	I think I'll stick with "Homebrew" now. It has nice parallels with the homebrew software side. I amended the index descriptions to be simpler and (hopefully) clearer. I think it's worth contacting original authors directly to see if they're interested. Maybe we can list off-site links if they don't like the co-hosting (also, to be honest we don't have room for 1000 MP3s), I can make the listing handle multiple cases easily enough. The homebrew listing is distinctly alpha right now - would you like to suggest what info we ought to have?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:10 pm
	...all old "non VGM" are now listed in "Homebrew". Now I need to move all the competition entries in there...

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:51 pm
	...done. I also added support for external links instead of local downloads (the 2009 entries link to the forum pages).

Jacko Joined: 01 Feb 2004 Posts: 1464 Location: Sunny ol Tamworth, New England NSW AU	Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:36 am
	Maxim :P You may wanna fix this link on the index page of the website ;) http://www.smspower.org/music/index.shtml Its dead for some reason

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:40 am
	I fixed it.

thatawesomeguy Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 732 Location: Melbourne, Australia	Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:42 am
	Just had a thought today how nice it would be to have transcriptions for the music. Do you think this would be worth adding to the wiki?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:52 am
	As in sheet music or tabs or something? I don't see why not. Produce some and I'll see about fitting it in...

karagh Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 192 Location: Basque Country, Spain	Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:01 pm
	VGM list page doesn't show "Tintin in Tibet"'s system (Game Gear).

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:40 pm
	That's because there's no page at http://www.smspower.org/Games/TintinInTibet-GG yet.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:16 pm
	I've added some code to the site that allows it to produce playlists for VGM packs. Page editors should see a "Regenerate" link which they can click on when the pack is updated to refresh the playlist.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8652 Location: Paris, France	Playlists Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:43 am
	Playlists are a good addition. :) However why showing so much information? There's a lot of redundancy and details. I think for the end user we would just want to display Title+Length (maybe Notes? Size?). The rest are mostly redundant and displayed once in the header. Now its perfectly possible for editors purpose to keep the full table generated somewhere as well, but showing it fully to normal user is quite dry. A short version with only Title+Length track listing would be great if displayed directly in the Games pages.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:11 pm
	Well, I went for "everything" first... and it's useful for checking tags. I may make it more filterable. Edit: done. Click through for the full-fat playlist.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:58 pm
	The VGMs index now has a gratuitous CoverFlow(TM)(R) thing at the top. I may see if I can repurpose this later for cover images.

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