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It was one of the last boxed games I got, and weirdly when I got a boxed copy another turned up within a month, so I had 2 :o)

This is slightly off-topic, but since the collectors hang around there..

Could somebody briefly lend me the following cartridges?
- GG EU : Championship Hockey
- GG US : Jungle Strike
- GG EU : Power Drive
- GG EU : F1 - World Championship Edition
They are all yet undumped games and should be dumped. I would only need loose cartridge, will pay back shipping forth and back. I'll add a free Japanese game you don't have (if I have anything spare and reasonable matching your want list)

Also unconfirmed dumps that I would like to confirm (would save me time)
- GG US - Bartman vs Radioactive Man
- GG US - Captain America
- GG US - Cliffhanger
- GG US - Mega Man
- GG US - Urban Strike

Thanks :)

I have all of those part from Urban Strike and Captain America.

Will send you a PM now.

Thanks!

Also I just noticed that Brynaldo listing also missed "Sports Trivia" (US).
It is listing only the other game "Sports Trivia - Championship Edition".

I'm working on adding all the games "releases" infos on the site:

http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-JP
http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-US
http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-EU
(note this is an early listing from, you can't click on the game title from there now, its merely for my own tracking purpose but we'll improve that later)

Still missing the bottom ~50 entries for US/EU and missing BR entries.
When I'll be done I'll start call for review and filling in missing product numbers among other things. Have your games ready :)

Here it is sheesh, took awhile to find it.

F-1 WCE.jpg (15.78 KB)

miss only this game and an other for boxed full set pal, I have only cartridge and instruction : ( . someone have a photo of special shtroumpf packaging I've never seen it ?

Wow very nice. When you say full set does that include all of the Classic Series box variations. And the "sega Classics" sticker rereleases variations? I consider both to be part of the FULL full set. Also do you have all Kixx variations and the different country variations for Winter Games and World Cup 94?

I have :
- 2 Kixx : Winter olympic, James Pond 2
- 2 Sega Classics : Street of Rage, The Ottifiants

Variation classic series :
- Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps
- Jungle book : PAL, French, German
- Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish)
- Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish)
- World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish)
- Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German)

Rerelease :
Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines)

For me a full is each different game's and not variations. But I wish have all variations : )

Oh no, sorry I didn't mean your set wasn't complete. I just was asking HOW COMPLETE it was. I know alot of people don't consider all the variations as part of it, but to me if the box is different I have to have it. :) Just like with my NES collection. I have one of only 2 known COMPLETE CIB sets of NES Licensed & Unlicensed, etc. But I also collect all the variants. I have over 400 CIB NES variants in addition to what everyone else would consider a complete collection.

One other thing that I've wanted to know.

I know we all count the "Classic Series" box changes as a variant and track those. But how many people here also collect the "Sega Classics" rereleases where the only difference is the Black and Gold sticker they put on the cover of the box. These seem to turn up alot in Australia. I have 6 or 7 of these CIB sticker only variants and was wondering if anyone is tracking all that exist. I know I have a list of all the ones I've seen in addition to the ones I have and I think my list is up to 15 or so in total.

Well, it's worth knowing but stickers are usually considered a minor variant, a bit like collecting SMS games with the barcode sticker on the inlay vs. on the box. But then, a US Sonic with UPC sticker is generally quite sought-after...

Store stickers are usually way out - where do you draw the line?

True I agree with that, I had the whole US SMS set with about 3/4 of the EURO SMS set and I sold it as I ran out of space to keep collecting everything. The only thing I didn't have was the US Sonic because I wasn't going to pay $1,000 for a sticker. I think the reason I collect the "Sega Classics" stickers is because SEGA put them on the boxes as a way to rerelease the games. It wasn't something a retailer did, etc. Just like the "Sega for the 90's" stickers they put on the box, book, cart on SMS, I collected those as a variant set for SMS when I was collecting that as well.

rg010803 wrote

Variation classic series :
- Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps
- Jungle book : PAL, French, German
- Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish)
- Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish)
- World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish)
- Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German)

Rerelease :
Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines)

Can you clarify, what is the Micro Machines rerelease?

Are all the languages for the games above also confirmed?

Does anybody can list the US games with Sega Classic stickers?
I have Solitaire Poker only.

Braveheart69 wrote

Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version.

Does the two earlier versions have any differences apart from the bottom of the box?

Bock wrote

rg010803 wrote

Variation classic series :
- Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps
- Jungle book : PAL, French, German
- Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish)
- Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish)
- World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish)
- Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German)

Rerelease :
Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines)

Can you clarify, what is the Micro Machines rerelease?

Are all the languages for the games above also confirmed?

Does anybody can list the US games with Sega Classic stickers?
I have Solitaire Poker only.

For Micro machine : http://www.vgrebirth.org/games/game.asp?id=42214&redirect=%2Fgames%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fplatforms%3D13%26regions%3D2%26page%3D3

For Languages, it's also sure.

Can somebody post pictures of the two Micro Machines next to each other and explain the difference?

Also I would like to confirm all the European EU/EN/FR/DE/SP/IT variations with pictures.

Quote

Slight variations from first release include:

- Different logos on front and back of box
- A different cart
- Part number of 17001 V2 on back of instructions instead of 17001
- Partly obscured part no on side of box

Codemasters games seem to have more than one cover, typically with different review scores on them; it could just be a later reprint when they had better scores :) or maybe they just did small production runs and liked to update the covers.

Bock wrote

Braveheart69 wrote

Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version.

Does the two earlier versions have any differences apart from the bottom of the box?

Yes the manuals are also totally different. The San Jose address is on the manual and it was a paper manual. The Santa Clara address manual is a glossy manual.

I finished adding all known releases, including Brasilian ones:

http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-JP
http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-US
http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-EU
http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-BR

There's lots of hole that we have to complete - product number and cartridge label type for one. This should become the "master" base from which eventually we can auto-derive text based listing or other forms of view.

Can you guys give a check in particular to all the games which are known to have multiple variations and see if there is something missing or incorrect.

The names should also all be correct including correct case, etc. The only inconsistency now is in the handling of subtitles (its a site wide problem that we'll try to address shortly).

One thing I noticed on the USA list you are missing all the variants of first release to 2nd release on the non-Majesco things. What I mean is the NON-Pinkish boxes had releases 1st without the age group thing on them and then they were rereleased with age group designations on them. Here is a pic with a couple I just grabbed out of my collection to show you what I mean.

DSC04039.JPG (366.47 KB)

Thanks. I didn't notice those at all.
Are you able to list all or most of those variants?
Are they identical apart from the age rating?

Yes the age rating on the front and back of the box is the difference on these.

Received the 4 undumped games borrowed from NonShinyGoose today! Pretty exciting :)

NonShinyGoose games were all dumped and released. Thanks a lot :). For those who are curious and can't access those games (especially Power Drive and F1 - World Championship Edition as they are very rare) you can give them a look here:
http://www.smspower.org/Games/PowerDrive-GG
http://www.smspower.org/Games/JungleStrike-GG
http://www.smspower.org/Games/ChampionshipHockey-GG
http://www.smspower.org/Games/F1WorldChampionshipEdition-GG

I'm still working on sorting out release varations and ROM variations for the various games. I've build a list with the 81 known US/EU carts variations I haven't dumped yet (most are US). If any of you guys fancy lending cartridges for a week to help with finishing the dumping project I can e-mail you that list - I'm paying all shipping cost etc. It greatly helps me to have access to those games for dumping because any missing region dump allows to unlock bits of the identifying dumps puzzle. Thanks.
Also as a general rule dumping game multiple times from various sources help finding alternate builds so even tho I'm gonna eventually track and buy those games myself in the following years its always good to have other cartridges to compare to.

Trivia: the Game Gear was released on October 6, 1990, which make it 20 years old from last year. Celebrate and play a game!

A little question: does the Disney Double Pack contain two carts? I didn't see it in the list.

I've only perused the PAL list as I only collect PAL games and it matches my list apart from two releases:

Cool Spot Summer Pack - Drrotule has one, pics here

Olympic Gold French release - Pic of mine here

Braveheart69 wrote

One other thing that I've wanted to know.

I know we all count the "Classic Series" box changes as a variant and track those. But how many people here also collect the "Sega Classics" rereleases where the only difference is the Black and Gold sticker they put on the cover of the box. These seem to turn up alot in Australia. I have 6 or 7 of these CIB sticker only variants and was wondering if anyone is tracking all that exist. I know I have a list of all the ones I've seen in addition to the ones I have and I think my list is up to 15 or so in total.

Those stickers are put on pretty much every standard PAL Sega release sold in Australia, I'd class them as regional variants not rereleases. If the game was an Ozisoft version then it generally came without a sticker as far as SMS and MD go, I can't confirm this 100% as you can never be sure the cases are the originals with clamshells. I've never bought any Oz GG games so I can't confirm whether or not Ozisoft released their own carts/instructions or printed their own boxes for GG like they did for SMS and MD (SMS and MD Ozisoft cases are slightly thinner). I have a feeling that Oz versions of Olympic Gold and World Cup USA 94 may exist too, I may ask some of my Oz contacts to do a bit of research for me :).[/u]

I compared the EU list to a one I have gathered from various sources. The only additional provable difference I found is that Mortal Kombat 3 is missing.

It would be interesting to know more about that Disney Double Pack. I'd expect it's a Telstar type of a double pack.

What about Clutch Hitter and Surf Ninjas listed by Anagrama in an old thread on this board? Did they really have EU releases?

One thing I want to know as well is why does RFGeneration continue to list Alien Syndrome as part of the USA set? I have emailed them numerous times trying to get them to remove it but they won't. The game is Euro & Japan exclusive and I have both of those CIB. They continue to say it came out in USA? The only thing I can think of is that people have cart only copies they got in mixed up lots on eBay and they think they are USA because they came from USA Sellers? Any Ideas?

vonB wrote

I compared the EU list to a one I have gathered from various sources. The only additional provable difference I found is that Mortal Kombat 3 is missing.

It would be interesting to know more about that Disney Double Pack. I'd expect it's a Telstar type of a double pack.

What about Clutch Hitter and Surf Ninjas listed by Anagrama in an old thread on this board? Did they really have EU releases?

Yeah, the Disney Double Pack looks like a Telstar one. They also bundled MD games together.

I've never seen EU Clutch Hitter or Surf Ninjas.

Just Found ANOTHER Majesco USA rerelease.
Super Columns is just like Sports Trivia Championship Edition Majesco ReRelease. Only difference is on the back the one says "Distributed by Majesco Sales Inc. 244 Fernwood Avenue Edison, NJ 08837 1-800-826-0015" while the original release is missing all that text. The manuals are also different on the inside 2 pages and on the last page and back cover. You can also tell the difference on the front of the box as the Orginal release has SEGA in darker Blue while the Majesco copy is More Whiter. Here's a pic of what I mean.

DSC04070.JPG (175.05 KB)

For the second time I got a sealed Sports Trivia Championship Edition box, product number 2450, 5 lines of text on the bottom. And unsealing it, it contains a regular "Sports Trivia" cartridge, product number 2329 printed on the cartridge.

Does somebody knows what the deal with those?

Reading old messages with Brynaldo he said:

"I just checked through my photo's, I actually had the Sports Trivia cart without 'Championship Edition' on. So now i'm really confused.

It also says 'Not for Resale' which makes me think it was part of a package."

I've myself bought three copies of Sports Trivia Championship Edition to find a regular non "Championship Edition" cartridge inside.

Yeah this one has always bothered me and it's pretty much the last USA release mystery I have yet to solve. I've always assumed it was part of a pack in release but I've never found proof of that?

Can you clarify:
- Can you find Sports Trivia Championship Edition box with the correct cartridge inside?
- Which of the original and re-release have the issue?
Anything you know that could be clarified would be useful.

I've never found the NON Champ edition in either the original or Majesco re-release boxes? In fact of the hundreds of this cart I've had during collecting I've only ever had 2 NON Champ edition carts. All the others have been Champ Edition. Due to it saying not for Resale it had to be part of a pack in?

1.
I noticed that my KIXX Winter Olympics, under the KIXX inlay was an English version with the Souvenir Brochure, not an European version. Do you guys knows if the KIXX version hold different country variations depending on the country it was sold in?

2.
Also do all version of Winter Olympics contains the mini certification stating "An Official Olympic Product" ?

I've had a couple Kixx versions of this one and all were English.

I have all the regional variants of this one and yes they all have it.

NonShinyGoose wrote

The majesco rereleases were: Sonic 2, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Spinball, The Lion King, Aladdin, Donald: Deep Duck Trouble, The Jungle Book, Ceasers Palace, Super Battletank, Ms Pacman and Pacman.

I am struggling to identify the difference between Sonic 2 regular release and Majesco re-release. Can anybody help ?

Wasn't Kixx a UK-only distributor ?

Bock wrote

NonShinyGoose wrote

The majesco rereleases were: Sonic 2, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Spinball, The Lion King, Aladdin, Donald: Deep Duck Trouble, The Jungle Book, Ceasers Palace, Super Battletank, Ms Pacman and Pacman.

I am struggling to identify the difference between Sonic 2 regular release and Majesco re-release. Can anybody help ?

I'm not sure, but does the Majesco release have an ESRB rating on it (K-A or E)? I know the original wouldn't because it was made before that.

Braveheart69 wrote

I've had a couple Kixx versions of this one and all were English

. Mine is a PAL and I'm sure, there is a sticker on the barcode and number not the same, All my other KIXX version have also a sticker like that. I can take photos to show you. Have you sticker also on your KIXX Braveheart ?

I'm little confused here, doesn't take much. But I'm sure you can help.

I have just got CJ Elephant. The game was bought from new in the UK. It was manufactured in the UK, but everywhere I look people are saying it's the US version? Even on the coding on this site it says US version.

Is it possible the US version, The UK are the same, only shipped to the US?
I know the European version is different, purple bottom edge.

I would have thought that if the UK version was shipped to the US it would have a different code or box. Some clarification would help me sleep at night!

The US box is different of the European box and don't have same code but instruction and cartridge are exactly the same.

Braveheart69 wrote

Yes I have Championship Hockey CIB as well as CJ Elephant Fugitive CIB but I see pics have already been posted.

However I can confirm that Sports Trivia Championship Edition and PacMan came in both regular release and Majesco Rerelease versions. There is also a cart only version of Sports Trivia that IS NOT labeled Championship Edition but I've never seen a box for it, I'm assuming it was a pack in with a system or soemthing?

Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version.

Braveheart69, could you take pictures of the 3 US Pac-Man including the front/back/side? Are the other side identical? Do they al say "Distributed by Majesco" on the back?

Braveheart69 wrote

I've never found the NON Champ edition in either the original or Majesco re-release boxes? In fact of the hundreds of this cart I've had during collecting I've only ever had 2 NON Champ edition carts. All the others have been Champ Edition. Due to it saying not for Resale it had to be part of a pack in?

I think I only got hold of 3-4 of them over the years, and my Majesco one was shrink-wrapped and came with a regular (NON Champion) edition so I must have been lucky, OR it was a re-sealed game. Hard to say.

Sorry to resurrect that... I'm going to the GG collection for scanning now, and this game has been puzzling me forever..

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Brynaldo Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 225	Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:29 pm
Brynaldo Joined: 02 Apr 2005 Posts: 225	It was one of the last boxed games I got, and weirdly when I got a boxed copy another turned up within a month, so I had 2 :o)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Undumped games Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:03 am
	This is slightly off-topic, but since the collectors hang around there.. Could somebody briefly lend me the following cartridges? - GG EU : Championship Hockey - GG US : Jungle Strike - GG EU : Power Drive - GG EU : F1 - World Championship Edition They are all yet undumped games and should be dumped. I would only need loose cartridge, will pay back shipping forth and back. I'll add a free Japanese game you don't have (if I have anything spare and reasonable matching your want list) Also unconfirmed dumps that I would like to confirm (would save me time) - GG US - Bartman vs Radioactive Man - GG US - Captain America - GG US - Cliffhanger - GG US - Mega Man - GG US - Urban Strike Thanks :)

NonShinyGoose Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 272 Location: UK	Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:13 am
	I have all of those part from Urban Strike and Captain America. Will send you a PM now.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:59 am
	Thanks! Also I just noticed that Brynaldo listing also missed "Sports Trivia" (US). It is listing only the other game "Sports Trivia - Championship Edition".

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:57 pm
	I'm working on adding all the games "releases" infos on the site: http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-JP http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-US http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-EU (note this is an early listing from, you can't click on the game title from there now, its merely for my own tracking purpose but we'll improve that later) Still missing the bottom ~50 entries for US/EU and missing BR entries. When I'll be done I'll start call for review and filling in missing product numbers among other things. Have your games ready :)

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:24 am
	Here it is sheesh, took awhile to find it. F-1 WCE.jpg (15.78 KB)

rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:31 am
rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	miss only this game and an other for boxed full set pal, I have only cartridge and instruction : ( . someone have a photo of special shtroumpf packaging I've never seen it ?

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:04 pm
	Wow very nice. When you say full set does that include all of the Classic Series box variations. And the "sega Classics" sticker rereleases variations? I consider both to be part of the FULL full set. Also do you have all Kixx variations and the different country variations for Winter Games and World Cup 94?

rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 7:48 pm
rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	I have : - 2 Kixx : Winter olympic, James Pond 2 - 2 Sega Classics : Street of Rage, The Ottifiants Variation classic series : - Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps - Jungle book : PAL, French, German - Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish) - Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish) - World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish) - Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German) Rerelease : Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines) For me a full is each different game's and not variations. But I wish have all variations : )

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:24 pm
	Oh no, sorry I didn't mean your set wasn't complete. I just was asking HOW COMPLETE it was. I know alot of people don't consider all the variations as part of it, but to me if the box is different I have to have it. :) Just like with my NES collection. I have one of only 2 known COMPLETE CIB sets of NES Licensed & Unlicensed, etc. But I also collect all the variants. I have over 400 CIB NES variants in addition to what everyone else would consider a complete collection.

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:27 pm
	One other thing that I've wanted to know. I know we all count the "Classic Series" box changes as a variant and track those. But how many people here also collect the "Sega Classics" rereleases where the only difference is the Black and Gold sticker they put on the cover of the box. These seem to turn up alot in Australia. I have 6 or 7 of these CIB sticker only variants and was wondering if anyone is tracking all that exist. I know I have a list of all the ones I've seen in addition to the ones I have and I think my list is up to 15 or so in total.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14744 Location: London	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:29 pm
	Well, it's worth knowing but stickers are usually considered a minor variant, a bit like collecting SMS games with the barcode sticker on the inlay vs. on the box. But then, a US Sonic with UPC sticker is generally quite sought-after... Store stickers are usually way out - where do you draw the line?

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:41 pm
	True I agree with that, I had the whole US SMS set with about 3/4 of the EURO SMS set and I sold it as I ran out of space to keep collecting everything. The only thing I didn't have was the US Sonic because I wasn't going to pay $1,000 for a sticker. I think the reason I collect the "Sega Classics" stickers is because SEGA put them on the boxes as a way to rerelease the games. It wasn't something a retailer did, etc. Just like the "Sega for the 90's" stickers they put on the box, book, cart on SMS, I collected those as a variant set for SMS when I was collecting that as well.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:43 am
	rg010803 wrote Variation classic series : - Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps - Jungle book : PAL, French, German - Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish) - Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish) - World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish) - Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German) Rerelease : Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines) Can you clarify, what is the Micro Machines rerelease? Are all the languages for the games above also confirmed? Does anybody can list the US games with Sega Classic stickers? I have Solitaire Poker only.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:25 am
	Braveheart69 wrote Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version. Does the two earlier versions have any differences apart from the bottom of the box?

rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:03 am
rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Bock wrote rg010803 wrote Variation classic series : - Ecco the tides of time and Ecco les marées du temps - Jungle book : PAL, French, German - Lion King : English, French (miss PAL, German, Spanish) - Winter Olympics : PAL, French (miss English, German, Spanish) - World cup USA : French (miss PAL, English, German, Spanish) - Pete Sampras Tennis : French (miss PAL, English, German) Rerelease : Micro Machines (don't have simple Micro Machines) Can you clarify, what is the Micro Machines rerelease? Are all the languages for the games above also confirmed? Does anybody can list the US games with Sega Classic stickers? I have Solitaire Poker only. For Micro machine : http://www.vgrebirth.org/games/game.asp?id=42214&redirect=%2Fgames%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fplatforms%3D13%26regions%3D2%26page%3D3 For Languages, it's also sure.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:06 am
	Can somebody post pictures of the two Micro Machines next to each other and explain the difference? Also I would like to confirm all the European EU/EN/FR/DE/SP/IT variations with pictures.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14744 Location: London	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:46 am
	Quote Slight variations from first release include: - Different logos on front and back of box - A different cart - Part number of 17001 V2 on back of instructions instead of 17001 - Partly obscured part no on side of box Codemasters games seem to have more than one cover, typically with different review scores on them; it could just be a later reprint when they had better scores :) or maybe they just did small production runs and liked to update the covers.

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:30 pm
	Bock wrote Braveheart69 wrote Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version. Does the two earlier versions have any differences apart from the bottom of the box? Yes the manuals are also totally different. The San Jose address is on the manual and it was a paper manual. The Santa Clara address manual is a glossy manual.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:37 am
	I finished adding all known releases, including Brasilian ones: http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-JP http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-US http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-EU http://www.smspower.org/Games-Releases/GG-BR There's lots of hole that we have to complete - product number and cartridge label type for one. This should become the "master" base from which eventually we can auto-derive text based listing or other forms of view. Can you guys give a check in particular to all the games which are known to have multiple variations and see if there is something missing or incorrect. The names should also all be correct including correct case, etc. The only inconsistency now is in the handling of subtitles (its a site wide problem that we'll try to address shortly).

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:06 pm
	One thing I noticed on the USA list you are missing all the variants of first release to 2nd release on the non-Majesco things. What I mean is the NON-Pinkish boxes had releases 1st without the age group thing on them and then they were rereleased with age group designations on them. Here is a pic with a couple I just grabbed out of my collection to show you what I mean. DSC04039.JPG (366.47 KB)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:10 pm
	Thanks. I didn't notice those at all. Are you able to list all or most of those variants? Are they identical apart from the age rating?

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:41 pm
	Yes the age rating on the front and back of the box is the difference on these.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:35 am
	Received the 4 undumped games borrowed from NonShinyGoose today! Pretty exciting :)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:46 am
	NonShinyGoose games were all dumped and released. Thanks a lot :). For those who are curious and can't access those games (especially Power Drive and F1 - World Championship Edition as they are very rare) you can give them a look here: http://www.smspower.org/Games/PowerDrive-GG http://www.smspower.org/Games/JungleStrike-GG http://www.smspower.org/Games/ChampionshipHockey-GG http://www.smspower.org/Games/F1WorldChampionshipEdition-GG I'm still working on sorting out release varations and ROM variations for the various games. I've build a list with the 81 known US/EU carts variations I haven't dumped yet (most are US). If any of you guys fancy lending cartridges for a week to help with finishing the dumping project I can e-mail you that list - I'm paying all shipping cost etc. It greatly helps me to have access to those games for dumping because any missing region dump allows to unlock bits of the identifying dumps puzzle. Thanks. Also as a general rule dumping game multiple times from various sources help finding alternate builds so even tho I'm gonna eventually track and buy those games myself in the following years its always good to have other cartridges to compare to.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:52 pm
	Trivia: the Game Gear was released on October 6, 1990, which make it 20 years old from last year. Celebrate and play a game!

BFC Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 40	Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:52 am
BFC Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 40	A little question: does the Disney Double Pack contain two carts? I didn't see it in the list.

ninjabearhug Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 17 Location: UK	Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:26 pm
ninjabearhug Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 17 Location: UK	I've only perused the PAL list as I only collect PAL games and it matches my list apart from two releases: Cool Spot Summer Pack - Drrotule has one, pics here Olympic Gold French release - Pic of mine here Braveheart69 wrote One other thing that I've wanted to know. I know we all count the "Classic Series" box changes as a variant and track those. But how many people here also collect the "Sega Classics" rereleases where the only difference is the Black and Gold sticker they put on the cover of the box. These seem to turn up alot in Australia. I have 6 or 7 of these CIB sticker only variants and was wondering if anyone is tracking all that exist. I know I have a list of all the ones I've seen in addition to the ones I have and I think my list is up to 15 or so in total. Those stickers are put on pretty much every standard PAL Sega release sold in Australia, I'd class them as regional variants not rereleases. If the game was an Ozisoft version then it generally came without a sticker as far as SMS and MD go, I can't confirm this 100% as you can never be sure the cases are the originals with clamshells. I've never bought any Oz GG games so I can't confirm whether or not Ozisoft released their own carts/instructions or printed their own boxes for GG like they did for SMS and MD (SMS and MD Ozisoft cases are slightly thinner). I have a feeling that Oz versions of Olympic Gold and World Cup USA 94 may exist too, I may ask some of my Oz contacts to do a bit of research for me :).[/u]

vonB Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 17 Location: Finland	Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:30 pm
vonB Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 17 Location: Finland	I compared the EU list to a one I have gathered from various sources. The only additional provable difference I found is that Mortal Kombat 3 is missing. It would be interesting to know more about that Disney Double Pack. I'd expect it's a Telstar type of a double pack. What about Clutch Hitter and Surf Ninjas listed by Anagrama in an old thread on this board? Did they really have EU releases?

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:17 pm
	One thing I want to know as well is why does RFGeneration continue to list Alien Syndrome as part of the USA set? I have emailed them numerous times trying to get them to remove it but they won't. The game is Euro & Japan exclusive and I have both of those CIB. They continue to say it came out in USA? The only thing I can think of is that people have cart only copies they got in mixed up lots on eBay and they think they are USA because they came from USA Sellers? Any Ideas?

NonShinyGoose Joined: 19 Mar 2010 Posts: 272 Location: UK	Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:48 pm
	vonB wrote I compared the EU list to a one I have gathered from various sources. The only additional provable difference I found is that Mortal Kombat 3 is missing. It would be interesting to know more about that Disney Double Pack. I'd expect it's a Telstar type of a double pack. What about Clutch Hitter and Surf Ninjas listed by Anagrama in an old thread on this board? Did they really have EU releases? Yeah, the Disney Double Pack looks like a Telstar one. They also bundled MD games together. I've never seen EU Clutch Hitter or Surf Ninjas.

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:14 pm
	Just Found ANOTHER Majesco USA rerelease. Super Columns is just like Sports Trivia Championship Edition Majesco ReRelease. Only difference is on the back the one says "Distributed by Majesco Sales Inc. 244 Fernwood Avenue Edison, NJ 08837 1-800-826-0015" while the original release is missing all that text. The manuals are also different on the inside 2 pages and on the last page and back cover. You can also tell the difference on the front of the box as the Orginal release has SEGA in darker Blue while the Majesco copy is More Whiter. Here's a pic of what I mean. DSC04070.JPG (175.05 KB)

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Sports Trivia issue Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:53 pm
	For the second time I got a sealed Sports Trivia Championship Edition box, product number 2450, 5 lines of text on the bottom. And unsealing it, it contains a regular "Sports Trivia" cartridge, product number 2329 printed on the cartridge. Does somebody knows what the deal with those?

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Re: Sports Trivia issue Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:44 pm
	Reading old messages with Brynaldo he said: "I just checked through my photo's, I actually had the Sports Trivia cart without 'Championship Edition' on. So now i'm really confused. It also says 'Not for Resale' which makes me think it was part of a package." I've myself bought three copies of Sports Trivia Championship Edition to find a regular non "Championship Edition" cartridge inside.

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:36 pm
	Yeah this one has always bothered me and it's pretty much the last USA release mystery I have yet to solve. I've always assumed it was part of a pack in release but I've never found proof of that?

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:56 pm
	Can you clarify: - Can you find Sports Trivia Championship Edition box with the correct cartridge inside? - Which of the original and re-release have the issue? Anything you know that could be clarified would be useful.

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:42 am
	I've never found the NON Champ edition in either the original or Majesco re-release boxes? In fact of the hundreds of this cart I've had during collecting I've only ever had 2 NON Champ edition carts. All the others have been Champ Edition. Due to it saying not for Resale it had to be part of a pack in?

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Winter Olympics KIXX Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:11 pm
	1. I noticed that my KIXX Winter Olympics, under the KIXX inlay was an English version with the Souvenir Brochure, not an European version. Do you guys knows if the KIXX version hold different country variations depending on the country it was sold in? 2. Also do all version of Winter Olympics contains the mini certification stating "An Official Olympic Product" ?

Braveheart69 Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 311 Location: USA	Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:05 pm
	I've had a couple Kixx versions of this one and all were English. I have all the regional variants of this one and yes they all have it.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:47 pm
	NonShinyGoose wrote The majesco rereleases were: Sonic 2, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Spinball, The Lion King, Aladdin, Donald: Deep Duck Trouble, The Jungle Book, Ceasers Palace, Super Battletank, Ms Pacman and Pacman. I am struggling to identify the difference between Sonic 2 regular release and Majesco re-release. Can anybody help ?

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:22 am
	Wasn't Kixx a UK-only distributor ?

KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 511	Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 10:16 pm
KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 511	Bock wrote NonShinyGoose wrote The majesco rereleases were: Sonic 2, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Spinball, The Lion King, Aladdin, Donald: Deep Duck Trouble, The Jungle Book, Ceasers Palace, Super Battletank, Ms Pacman and Pacman. I am struggling to identify the difference between Sonic 2 regular release and Majesco re-release. Can anybody help ? I'm not sure, but does the Majesco release have an ESRB rating on it (K-A or E)? I know the original wouldn't because it was made before that.

rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:09 am
rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Braveheart69 wrote I've had a couple Kixx versions of this one and all were English . Mine is a PAL and I'm sure, there is a sticker on the barcode and number not the same, All my other KIXX version have also a sticker like that. I can take photos to show you. Have you sticker also on your KIXX Braveheart ?

Gear For Games Joined: 16 Nov 2012 Posts: 171 Location: York	Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:17 pm
	I'm little confused here, doesn't take much. But I'm sure you can help. I have just got CJ Elephant. The game was bought from new in the UK. It was manufactured in the UK, but everywhere I look people are saying it's the US version? Even on the coding on this site it says US version. Is it possible the US version, The UK are the same, only shipped to the US? I know the European version is different, purple bottom edge. I would have thought that if the UK version was shipped to the US it would have a different code or box. Some clarification would help me sleep at night!

rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:15 pm
rg010803 Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Location: France	The US box is different of the European box and don't have same code but instruction and cartridge are exactly the same.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:52 am
	Braveheart69 wrote Yes I have Championship Hockey CIB as well as CJ Elephant Fugitive CIB but I see pics have already been posted. However I can confirm that Sports Trivia Championship Edition and PacMan came in both regular release and Majesco Rerelease versions. There is also a cart only version of Sports Trivia that IS NOT labeled Championship Edition but I've never seen a box for it, I'm assuming it was a pack in with a system or soemthing? Also for USA PacMan I have 3 different variants of that game. First one is San Jose version, next is Santa Clara version, 3rd is the Majesco version. Braveheart69, could you take pictures of the 3 US Pac-Man including the front/back/side? Are the other side identical? Do they al say "Distributed by Majesco" on the back?

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:51 pm
	Braveheart69 wrote I've never found the NON Champ edition in either the original or Majesco re-release boxes? In fact of the hundreds of this cart I've had during collecting I've only ever had 2 NON Champ edition carts. All the others have been Champ Edition. Due to it saying not for Resale it had to be part of a pack in? I think I only got hold of 3-4 of them over the years, and my Majesco one was shrink-wrapped and came with a regular (NON Champion) edition so I must have been lucky, OR it was a re-sealed game. Hard to say. Sorry to resurrect that... I'm going to the GG collection for scanning now, and this game has been puzzling me forever..

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