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Stokes definitely, I love this kinda stuff :)

Here's the attempt I did, and also, here are the pack of other MSX games on the Xyzolog loader (please note that a tiny bit of these games does not work on the loader). These are only 8 or 16kB games. Enjoy! Request me if you want any MSX game that is 8 or 16kB that won't work on the SMS. You can also patch them with bsittler's Xyzolog SG2GG hack, even you can patch the Sky Jaguar attempt with the Yie Ar Kung-Fu SG2GG hack (if it's there). :-)
Use start to get the title and game working for Sky Jaguar.

Sky Jaguar [Aaronix] (TW).zip (13.78 KB)

Xyzolog Loader.zip (1.17 MB)

Hello ,
i have a MASTER SYSTEM 2 with a EVERDRIVE

i try the MSX MEGAROM (with bsittler ips patch)
They work great

On the EVERDRIVE i can put 1Mo rom MAX
Is it possible to have patch IPS (<=1Mo) for :
- NEMESIS 2
- F1 SPIRIT

msx45 wrote

Hello ,
i have a MASTER SYSTEM 2 with a EVERDRIVE

i try the MSX MEGAROM (with bsittler ips patch)
They work great

On the EVERDRIVE i can put 1Mo rom MAX
Is it possible to have patch IPS (<=1Mo) for :
- NEMESIS 2
- F1 SPIRIT

Hello, it's nice to meet you. I'm glad to hear that the games work for you. :-)

It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM

From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE
2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE :
- CLOVER
- HI-COM

I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE

I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out

I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE
Tell me if it's allowed?

msx45 wrote

It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM

From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE
2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE :
- CLOVER
- HI-COM

I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE

I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out

I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE
Tell me if it's allowed?

The reason why you think it's kinda funny is because they both use the same Z80 processor, even for Game Gear and SG-1000. These loaders were basically from the 1980s in Korea, they were discontinued after all the game ideas. I have played Magical Kid Wiz, but not Planet Mobile, I might try that game.

msx45 wrote

It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM

From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE
2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE :
- CLOVER
- HI-COM

I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE

I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out

I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE
Tell me if it's allowed?

Hey, wait a minute... I did try this game. There are MSX2SMS people that did this game. If you want, I can do both these games, too. Also, DahJee, Aaronix, Jumbo, or Joy Soft (including the Xyzolog loader, maybe it's from Samsung themselves) didn't work for you?

On the emulators almost all the conversions work but on EVERDRIVE a lot of conversions does not work

MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE work on emulator
MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE doesn't work on EVERDRIVE

Planet mobile is known as Mobile Planet Suthirus

msx45 wrote

On the emulators almost all the conversions work but on EVERDRIVE a lot of conversions does not work

MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE work on emulator
MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE doesn't work on EVERDRIVE

Planet mobile is known as Mobile Planet Suthirus

I see, and I know the Planet Mobile is already that name.

I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth.

Stokes wrote

I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth.

Really???
Metal gear and Castlevania !!!

Stokes wrote

I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth.

Hola, I am very interested too. MSX2 has good games, and It would be awesome playing those games on our favourite consoles.

Well then, I will be working on it. I'm about to be working on Metal Gear, Quarth, 1942, Dragon Buster, Pac-Mania, etc.

I assuming it would be dependent on the game and if they can be downsampled enough.
Like doesn't MSX2 have a baseline RAM/VRAM size much larger than the SMS?
And the one MSX2 game I worked on used what is basically a 16-color bitmap mode. Something I believe SMS doesn't support?

Stokes wrote

Well then, I will be working on it. I'm about to be working on Metal Gear, Quarth, 1942, Dragon Buster, Pac-Mania, etc.

Great, It Will be fantastic to add "new games" to the SMS library.

KingMike wrote

I assuming it would be dependent on the game and if they can be downsampled enough.
Like doesn't MSX2 have a baseline RAM/VRAM size much larger than the SMS?
And the one MSX2 game I worked on used what is basically a 16-color bitmap mode. Something I believe SMS doesn't support?

Okay, as I'm searching, the SMS / Game Gear uses 16 colors or colours for the people in that country inside a sprite, but 64 color palettes inside the video chip, the MSX has 256 to 512 colors in total. So, the MSX2 might be impossible to do, or maybe possible if it is.

Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS !

16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64)

I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64

What do you think?

BcnAbel76 wrote

Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS !

16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64)

I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64

What do you think?

Since I see you thinking this stuff is possible, I'll do it. :-)

https://www.msx.org/wiki/VDP_Color_Palette_Registers

Need to capture when game is setting palettes and do a call $XXXX to conversion routine MSX2SMS palette, theoretically, in practice it will depend on the complexity and space of the rom to reprogram

If you guys want, you can port the MSX2 games also and show the work you've done. I'm interested in that too. I'm doing it Zemina style, like Nemesis 2.

Revo wrote

Thank you for this topic ;)

Here a list of conversion I tried (only with Road Fighter TW 16 first ko).
Note that I'm not testing games of 128ko and over.

Hey, while we try to figure this out, why not give me a request of some of these BAD files (only 8 or 16 kilobytes) and let me put it on the Xyzolog loader. Also, how about other MSX games like Parodius or R-Type, any 128 to any kilobytes.

R-Type needs mapper conversion of course, but it also accesses hardware without using the BIOS I believe, including a check for FM-PAC in slot 2 and possibly IO, so likely needs extra patching. I think the optional FM music should be portable to SMS FM at least in terms of chips used. Also SMS R-Type seems better in many ways, though MSX one can use PSG and FM simultaneously which is pretty neat

bsittler wrote

R-Type needs mapper conversion of course, but it also accesses hardware without using the BIOS I believe, including a check for FM-PAC in slot 2 and possibly IO, so likely needs extra patching. I think the optional FM music should be portable to SMS FM at least in terms of chips used. Also SMS R-Type seems better in many ways, though MSX one can use PSG and FM simultaneously which is pretty neat

Okay, so maybe Parodius if I can get it to work like Zemina's Nemesis port.

Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS?

Lambada wrote

Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS?

Hello, Hi-Com, a Korean company has done so in their last 8-in-1 collection, maybe I can export it to the SMS itself.

Lambada wrote

Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS?

Here you go, enjoy! :-)

Athletic Land [Hi-Com] (KR).zip (22.09 KB)

Thanks!
I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =(

Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick.

I will try it there then. =D

PS: It worked!

Perhaps you could convert also Artic Adventure and Penguim Adventure?

Lambada wrote

Thanks!
I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =(

Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick.

I will try it there then. =D

PS: It worked!

Perhaps you could convert also Antarctic Adventure and Penguin Adventure?

Yeah, Sega should've used the video mode, but, since they've used their own video for Mega Drive / Genesis, it supports SMS color. Glad that Athletic Land works.

Zemina, also a Korean company, ported Penguin Adventure to the SMS with their code changes, you can download it Here.

I might try to see if I can fix the glitch bugs for Antarctic Adventure.

Would anybody want to have Bomber King on their Master System?

Bomber King is a really great game on MSX, I think some SMS fans will enjoy it :)

Stokes wrote

BcnAbel76 wrote

Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS !

16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64)

I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64

What do you think?

Since I see you thinking this stuff is possible, I'll do it. :-)

as i think that we should separate this thread into two different threads, since converting msx1 games to sg1000 (and sms by retrocompatibility) is significantly different than converting msx2 games to sms, i started this one: https://www.smspower.org/forums/18087-MSX2ToSMSConversionsNotMSXToSG1000

as commented there, converting msx2 games to sms is almost totally remaking the game, and needing to analyze the z80 disassembling listing deeply, at least for locating where the graphics part is, and remaking that totally since sms uses mostly hardware tiles, and msx2 "screen 5" (mostly used on msx2 games) uses vdp dma-like commands for simulating that, which both are structured in a totally different way, not mentioning also how sprites are structured (sms sprites are 4bitdepth, and msx2 sprites are 1bitdepth with 1 color per line, and allowing boolean "or" colours when sprites are overlapped, as shown at https://www.msx.org/wiki/The_OR_Color )

Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now.

Stokes wrote

Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now.

I saw "The Protector" had been converted from MSX to SMS, would it be possible to request the other games based on Jackie Chan converted too? Project A, Spartan X and Police Story.

duiz wrote

Stokes wrote

Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now.

I saw "The Protector" had been converted from MSX to SMS, would it be possible to request the other games based on Jackie Chan converted too? Project A, Spartan X and Police Story.

Police Story has been converted to the SMS. I can redo both of these games, although I need to find Project A, Spartan X is only in cassette and disk format, maybe someone soon will convert the game to ROM format, but it seems to not exist. Even Project A is in cassette.

I converted a N.I. game from 2017 called Bird & Chairs. It's on Joy Soft's loader, maybe I can be able to port this to Game Gear soon. But here, enjoy! :-)

Screenshot 2020-10-02 at 10.01.13 AM.png (20.15 KB)

Bird & Chairs (KR).zip (19.07 KB)

Here's the game on Game Gear.

Bird & Chairs (KR) [SG2GG].zip (19.48 KB)

Here's a game called Mr. Chin by HAL Labs.

Screenshot 2020-10-12 at 11.21.27 AM.png (23.26 KB)

Screenshot 2020-10-12 at 11.21.49 AM.png (20 KB)

Mr. Chin (KR).zip (49.7 KB)

I have a question. Do any coders port MSX to SMS manually like Zemina did?

Also, who would like more Aaronix / DahJee ports?

I'm working on Alpha Squadron on the SMS. I hope anybody is interested. I got the VDP working. Looks like the whole game works if you're on demo.

I also ported Brother Adventure to the Master System. It has no sound, but also Zemina never even ported this to the SMS.

Lambada wrote

Thanks!
I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =(

Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick.

I will try it there then. =D

PS: It worked!

Perhaps you could convert also Artic Adventure and Penguim Adventure?

Hi, Lambada. Just came here to tell you that I fixed the VDP on Antarctic Adventure. I still need to do sound and controls.

Here's Battle Cross.
I got source from Alibaba and 40 Thieves, you guys can always convert a MSX game with the MSX code sources and convert it into SMS.
Enjoy! :-)

Screenshot 2020-11-01 at 8.51.48 AM.png (20.75 KB)

Battle Cross.zip (22.25 KB)

Wafer wrote

Someone should really look into either disassembling and unifying the different BIOS' or porting C-BIOS.

I am someone, but I should probably be focussing on other projects.

Probably.

Wafer, I did convert C-BIOS. I should've thought of this for a long time. Here are some screenshots. Plus, I got Pac-Man working for the first time. :-D
I haven't added the SN76489 yet, but I will do that soon.
UPDATE: C-BIOS for Master System is a great success, it runs a lot of the games you guys have done for the SMS. I will send it in soon.

Screenshot 2020-11-05 at 9.50.03 AM.png (20.82 KB)

Screenshot 2020-11-05 at 9.50.19 AM.png (50.88 KB)

I converted the lastest C-BIOS to the Master System.
I will upload this one.

Screenshot 2020-11-07 at 7.18.00 AM.png (31.28 KB)

Screenshot 2020-11-07 at 7.18.15 AM.png (70.46 KB)

You can merge MSX games with this emulator, this still doesn't have the SN76489 programmed yet, but this is a beta.
You can merge the logo if the game is either 8 (might need to turn the game into 16kB) or 16kB, or you don't have to.
But anyways here. Enjoy! :-)

C-BIOS 0.29 for Sega Master System.zip (22.33 KB)

Hello ,
i put a 16Ko game after the CBIOS

But nothing work , only CBIOS boot...

Can you put a example ?

msx45 wrote

Hello ,
i put a 16Ko game after the CBIOS

But nothing work , only CBIOS boot...

Can you put a example ?

Which game?
You must merge like this.
C-BIOS Half
MSX Game
C-BIOS Logo (Optional)

it's OK now with the half version
I try 16ko an 32Ko Games (8 games) on my Master System
Eggerland an Rambo doesn't work

I hope to quickly see the version with the audio

Is it planned to run MEGAROMS (128Ko, 256Ko, 512Ko) ?

msx45 wrote

it's OK now with the half version
I try 16ko an 32Ko Games (8 games) on my Master System
Eggerland an Rambo doesn't work

I hope to quickly see the version with the audio

Is it planned to run MEGAROMS (128Ko, 256Ko, 512Ko) ?

Okay, Eggerland and Rambo doesn't seem to work out with the Master System code. I might see if I can edit it. I will do the SN76489 soon, and I will see if it does run Mega-ROM games.

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dink Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 233 Location: detroit	Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 2:42 am
dink Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 233 Location: detroit	Stokes definitely, I love this kinda stuff :)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:37 am
	Here's the attempt I did, and also, here are the pack of other MSX games on the Xyzolog loader (please note that a tiny bit of these games does not work on the loader). These are only 8 or 16kB games. Enjoy! Request me if you want any MSX game that is 8 or 16kB that won't work on the SMS. You can also patch them with bsittler's Xyzolog SG2GG hack, even you can patch the Sky Jaguar attempt with the Yie Ar Kung-Fu SG2GG hack (if it's there). :-) Use start to get the title and game working for Sky Jaguar. Sky Jaguar [Aaronix] (TW).zip (13.78 KB) Xyzolog Loader.zip (1.17 MB)

msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:37 pm
msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Hello , i have a MASTER SYSTEM 2 with a EVERDRIVE i try the MSX MEGAROM (with bsittler ips patch) They work great On the EVERDRIVE i can put 1Mo rom MAX Is it possible to have patch IPS (<=1Mo) for : - NEMESIS 2 - F1 SPIRIT

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:59 pm
	msx45 wrote Hello , i have a MASTER SYSTEM 2 with a EVERDRIVE i try the MSX MEGAROM (with bsittler ips patch) They work great On the EVERDRIVE i can put 1Mo rom MAX Is it possible to have patch IPS (<=1Mo) for : - NEMESIS 2 - F1 SPIRIT Hello, it's nice to meet you. I'm glad to hear that the games work for you. :-)

msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:25 pm
msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE 2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE : - CLOVER - HI-COM I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE Tell me if it's allowed?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:47 pm
	msx45 wrote It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE 2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE : - CLOVER - HI-COM I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE Tell me if it's allowed? The reason why you think it's kinda funny is because they both use the same Z80 processor, even for Game Gear and SG-1000. These loaders were basically from the 1980s in Korea, they were discontinued after all the game ideas. I have played Magical Kid Wiz, but not Planet Mobile, I might try that game.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:49 pm
	msx45 wrote It's really funny to see MSX games running on a real MASTER SYSTEM From the tests I did we can say that 60 games converted work with EVERDRIVE 2 loaders runs well on EVERDRIVE : - CLOVER - HI-COM I would like to succeed in running MAGICAL KID WID and PLANET MOBILE with EVERDRIVE I'm waiting to see if other loader will come out I can post a ready-to-use pack for EVERDRIVE Tell me if it's allowed? Hey, wait a minute... I did try this game. There are MSX2SMS people that did this game. If you want, I can do both these games, too. Also, DahJee, Aaronix, Jumbo, or Joy Soft (including the Xyzolog loader, maybe it's from Samsung themselves) didn't work for you?

msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:01 am
msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	On the emulators almost all the conversions work but on EVERDRIVE a lot of conversions does not work MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE work on emulator MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE doesn't work on EVERDRIVE Planet mobile is known as Mobile Planet Suthirus

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:16 pm
	msx45 wrote On the emulators almost all the conversions work but on EVERDRIVE a lot of conversions does not work MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE work on emulator MAGICAL KID WIZ and PLANET MOBILE doesn't work on EVERDRIVE Planet mobile is known as Mobile Planet Suthirus I see, and I know the Planet Mobile is already that name.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:06 pm
	I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth.

law81 Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Posts: 304	Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:58 pm
law81 Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Posts: 304	Stokes wrote I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth. Really??? Metal gear and Castlevania !!!

Aranya Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 173 Location: Valencia,Spain.	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:14 am
	Stokes wrote I'm just asking if you guys were interested if I told you I were porting MSX2 to SMS games (although I said it was impossible) like Quarth. Hola, I am very interested too. MSX2 has good games, and It would be awesome playing those games on our favourite consoles.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 1:29 pm
	Well then, I will be working on it. I'm about to be working on Metal Gear, Quarth, 1942, Dragon Buster, Pac-Mania, etc.

KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 533	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:38 pm
KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 533	I assuming it would be dependent on the game and if they can be downsampled enough. Like doesn't MSX2 have a baseline RAM/VRAM size much larger than the SMS? And the one MSX2 game I worked on used what is basically a 16-color bitmap mode. Something I believe SMS doesn't support?

Aranya Joined: 02 Mar 2011 Posts: 173 Location: Valencia,Spain.	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:39 pm
	Stokes wrote Well then, I will be working on it. I'm about to be working on Metal Gear, Quarth, 1942, Dragon Buster, Pac-Mania, etc. Great, It Will be fantastic to add "new games" to the SMS library.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:40 pm
	KingMike wrote I assuming it would be dependent on the game and if they can be downsampled enough. Like doesn't MSX2 have a baseline RAM/VRAM size much larger than the SMS? And the one MSX2 game I worked on used what is basically a 16-color bitmap mode. Something I believe SMS doesn't support? Okay, as I'm searching, the SMS / Game Gear uses 16 colors or colours for the people in that country inside a sprite, but 64 color palettes inside the video chip, the MSX has 256 to 512 colors in total. So, the MSX2 might be impossible to do, or maybe possible if it is.

BcnAbel76 Joined: 28 Feb 2016 Posts: 503 Location: Barcelona	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:29 pm
	Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS ! 16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64) I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64 What do you think?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:24 pm
	BcnAbel76 wrote Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS ! 16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64) I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64 What do you think? Since I see you thinking this stuff is possible, I'll do it. :-)

BcnAbel76 Joined: 28 Feb 2016 Posts: 503 Location: Barcelona	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 9:52 pm
	https://www.msx.org/wiki/VDP_Color_Palette_Registers Need to capture when game is setting palettes and do a call $XXXX to conversion routine MSX2SMS palette, theoretically, in practice it will depend on the complexity and space of the rom to reprogram

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:09 pm
	If you guys want, you can port the MSX2 games also and show the work you've done. I'm interested in that too. I'm doing it Zemina style, like Nemesis 2.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 2:52 am
	Revo wrote Thank you for this topic ;) Here a list of conversion I tried (only with Road Fighter TW 16 first ko). Note that I'm not testing games of 128ko and over. Hey, while we try to figure this out, why not give me a request of some of these BAD files (only 8 or 16 kilobytes) and let me put it on the Xyzolog loader. Also, how about other MSX games like Parodius or R-Type, any 128 to any kilobytes.

bsittler Joined: 22 Apr 2018 Posts: 535	Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:01 am
bsittler Joined: 22 Apr 2018 Posts: 535	R-Type needs mapper conversion of course, but it also accesses hardware without using the BIOS I believe, including a check for FM-PAC in slot 2 and possibly IO, so likely needs extra patching. I think the optional FM music should be portable to SMS FM at least in terms of chips used. Also SMS R-Type seems better in many ways, though MSX one can use PSG and FM simultaneously which is pretty neat

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:47 pm
	bsittler wrote R-Type needs mapper conversion of course, but it also accesses hardware without using the BIOS I believe, including a check for FM-PAC in slot 2 and possibly IO, so likely needs extra patching. I think the optional FM music should be portable to SMS FM at least in terms of chips used. Also SMS R-Type seems better in many ways, though MSX one can use PSG and FM simultaneously which is pretty neat Okay, so maybe Parodius if I can get it to work like Zemina's Nemesis port.

Lambada Joined: 09 Aug 2020 Posts: 2	Athletic Land (1984) Konami MSX Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:56 am
Lambada Joined: 09 Aug 2020 Posts: 2	Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:41 am
	Lambada wrote Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS? Hello, Hi-Com, a Korean company has done so in their last 8-in-1 collection, maybe I can export it to the SMS itself.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:51 am
	Lambada wrote Stokes, can you convert Athletic Land to SMS? Here you go, enjoy! :-) Athletic Land [Hi-Com] (KR).zip (22.09 KB)

Lambada Joined: 09 Aug 2020 Posts: 2	Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:00 am
Lambada Joined: 09 Aug 2020 Posts: 2	Thanks! I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =( Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick. I will try it there then. =D PS: It worked! Perhaps you could convert also Artic Adventure and Penguim Adventure?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 11:59 am
	Lambada wrote Thanks! I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =( Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick. I will try it there then. =D PS: It worked! Perhaps you could convert also Antarctic Adventure and Penguin Adventure? Yeah, Sega should've used the video mode, but, since they've used their own video for Mega Drive / Genesis, it supports SMS color. Glad that Athletic Land works. Zemina, also a Korean company, ported Penguin Adventure to the SMS with their code changes, you can download it Here. I might try to see if I can fix the glitch bugs for Antarctic Adventure.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:28 pm
	Would anybody want to have Bomber King on their Master System?

dink Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 233 Location: detroit	Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:44 pm
dink Joined: 09 Dec 2013 Posts: 233 Location: detroit	Bomber King is a really great game on MSX, I think some SMS fans will enjoy it :)

nitrofurano Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 322 Location: Porto, Portugal	Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:55 am
	Stokes wrote BcnAbel76 wrote Hello Stokes, yes we like MSX2 games running in SMS ! 16 Colors to Background and 16 Colors to Sprites, selectable from 64 colors depth, would be possible to downgrade 512 to 64 selectable as we do with Game Gear to Master System ports, (4096 to 64) I now commercial games are using 16 color palette, then would be possible duplicate palette for background and sprites and downgrade from 512 to 64 What do you think? Since I see you thinking this stuff is possible, I'll do it. :-) as i think that we should separate this thread into two different threads, since converting msx1 games to sg1000 (and sms by retrocompatibility) is significantly different than converting msx2 games to sms, i started this one: https://www.smspower.org/forums/18087-MSX2ToSMSConversionsNotMSXToSG1000 as commented there, converting msx2 games to sms is almost totally remaking the game, and needing to analyze the z80 disassembling listing deeply, at least for locating where the graphics part is, and remaking that totally since sms uses mostly hardware tiles, and msx2 "screen 5" (mostly used on msx2 games) uses vdp dma-like commands for simulating that, which both are structured in a totally different way, not mentioning also how sprites are structured (sms sprites are 4bitdepth, and msx2 sprites are 1bitdepth with 1 color per line, and allowing boolean "or" colours when sprites are overlapped, as shown at https://www.msx.org/wiki/The_OR_Color )

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:34 pm
	Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now.

duiz Joined: 12 Sep 2020 Posts: 1	Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:02 pm
duiz Joined: 12 Sep 2020 Posts: 1	Stokes wrote Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now. I saw "The Protector" had been converted from MSX to SMS, would it be possible to request the other games based on Jackie Chan converted too? Project A, Spartan X and Police Story.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:12 pm
	duiz wrote Stokes wrote Okay, while we just figure these stuff out, I still can do small games for right now. I saw "The Protector" had been converted from MSX to SMS, would it be possible to request the other games based on Jackie Chan converted too? Project A, Spartan X and Police Story. Police Story has been converted to the SMS. I can redo both of these games, although I need to find Project A, Spartan X is only in cassette and disk format, maybe someone soon will convert the game to ROM format, but it seems to not exist. Even Project A is in cassette.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:03 pm
	I converted a N.I. game from 2017 called Bird & Chairs. It's on Joy Soft's loader, maybe I can be able to port this to Game Gear soon. But here, enjoy! :-) Screenshot 2020-10-02 at 10.01.13 AM.png (20.15 KB) Bird & Chairs (KR).zip (19.07 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:30 pm
	Here's the game on Game Gear. Bird & Chairs (KR) [SG2GG].zip (19.48 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:24 pm
	Here's a game called Mr. Chin by HAL Labs. Screenshot 2020-10-12 at 11.21.27 AM.png (23.26 KB) Screenshot 2020-10-12 at 11.21.49 AM.png (20 KB) Mr. Chin (KR).zip (49.7 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:45 am
	I have a question. Do any coders port MSX to SMS manually like Zemina did?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:16 pm
	Also, who would like more Aaronix / DahJee ports?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:04 pm
	I'm working on Alpha Squadron on the SMS. I hope anybody is interested. I got the VDP working. Looks like the whole game works if you're on demo.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:43 pm
	I also ported Brother Adventure to the Master System. It has no sound, but also Zemina never even ported this to the SMS.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:23 pm
	Lambada wrote Thanks! I just learnt that I can't play this game on my Mega Drive as it doesn't support legacy video modes. =( Because bluemsx core from PS3 Retroarch didn't work with keyboard games I couldn't play it but now that you converted it to SMS perhaps it will work on Genesis Plus GX core with my joystick. I will try it there then. =D PS: It worked! Perhaps you could convert also Artic Adventure and Penguim Adventure? Hi, Lambada. Just came here to tell you that I fixed the VDP on Antarctic Adventure. I still need to do sound and controls.

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:53 pm
	Here's Battle Cross. I got source from Alibaba and 40 Thieves, you guys can always convert a MSX game with the MSX code sources and convert it into SMS. Enjoy! :-) Screenshot 2020-11-01 at 8.51.48 AM.png (20.75 KB) Battle Cross.zip (22.25 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:50 pm
	Wafer wrote Someone should really look into either disassembling and unifying the different BIOS' or porting C-BIOS. I am someone, but I should probably be focussing on other projects. Probably. Wafer, I did convert C-BIOS. I should've thought of this for a long time. Here are some screenshots. Plus, I got Pac-Man working for the first time. :-D I haven't added the SN76489 yet, but I will do that soon. UPDATE: C-BIOS for Master System is a great success, it runs a lot of the games you guys have done for the SMS. I will send it in soon. Screenshot 2020-11-05 at 9.50.03 AM.png (20.82 KB) Screenshot 2020-11-05 at 9.50.19 AM.png (50.88 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:19 pm
	I converted the lastest C-BIOS to the Master System. I will upload this one. Screenshot 2020-11-07 at 7.18.00 AM.png (31.28 KB) Screenshot 2020-11-07 at 7.18.15 AM.png (70.46 KB)

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:26 pm
	You can merge MSX games with this emulator, this still doesn't have the SN76489 programmed yet, but this is a beta. You can merge the logo if the game is either 8 (might need to turn the game into 16kB) or 16kB, or you don't have to. But anyways here. Enjoy! :-) C-BIOS 0.29 for Sega Master System.zip (22.33 KB)

msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:16 pm
msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Hello , i put a 16Ko game after the CBIOS But nothing work , only CBIOS boot... Can you put a example ?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:23 pm
	msx45 wrote Hello , i put a 16Ko game after the CBIOS But nothing work , only CBIOS boot... Can you put a example ? Which game? You must merge like this. C-BIOS Half MSX Game C-BIOS Logo (Optional)

msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:04 pm
msx45 Joined: 08 Jan 2017 Posts: 33	it's OK now with the half version I try 16ko an 32Ko Games (8 games) on my Master System Eggerland an Rambo doesn't work I hope to quickly see the version with the audio Is it planned to run MEGAROMS (128Ko, 256Ko, 512Ko) ?

Stokes Joined: 17 Feb 2020 Posts: 679 Location: United States	Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:10 pm
	msx45 wrote it's OK now with the half version I try 16ko an 32Ko Games (8 games) on my Master System Eggerland an Rambo doesn't work I hope to quickly see the version with the audio Is it planned to run MEGAROMS (128Ko, 256Ko, 512Ko) ? Okay, Eggerland and Rambo doesn't seem to work out with the Master System code. I might see if I can edit it. I will do the SN76489 soon, and I will see if it does run Mega-ROM games.

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