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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:22 pm |
They're actually two different games. Last Bible Special is a first person dungeon crawler, while Last Bible is a more traditional JRPG. I tried to post screenshots but I don't have enough posts. Just look both titles up on YouTube to see what I mean. I thought they were just different versions of the same game too based on the title. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:50 pm |
dudududufhfh advance to find link about GG2SMS English conversion Last Bible
http://www.smspower.org/forums/14742-GameGearToMasterSystemHacks?start=850 Some news about Fatal Fury Special GG2SMS, I deleted all garbage around Stages, (sometimes a lot of garbage is loaded, allways outside Game Gear resolution), but it is not 100% free, I needed to "simplify" tiles in down area, where you are walking, overall, it is a pleasure not see garbage blinking, here is 2 pictures about it |
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:52 pm |
Hi Wesker! Thank you for the feedback, but this is a known issue. It's written on the README and on my site: "The larger screen area makes some enemies appear immediately in some areas, like in the 1st screen of the 1st stage, and in the 1st screen of the airship stage." This means it's not a matter of locking the scroll, but rather a consequence of the larger screen viewport. It would require some investigation find the spawn point of those enemies and edit the map to change them, but sadly I won't have time for that any time soon. |
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2019 2:56 pm |
Oh, ok. I'm not sure if I didn't understand what you were pointing out in the readme/website or simply I totally misread that part. I'm not sure what's the problem in the first screen of the first stage but I didn't find anything suspicious there. Anyway, I hope you'll get back to that sometime. | |
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:51 pm |
Note that hyperspinbrasil has been posting apparently Magical Taruruuto-kun GG2SMS updates (under several accounts) for a while now. If files aren't forthcoming then let's delete them. Revo and BcnAbel76, this one seems to be yours - is it real?
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Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:37 pm |
Hello, those 2 games has not been ported.
I've done a proto about Magical Taruruuto-Kun GG2SMS with corrected scroll but I never upload it to internet. Somebody register youtube with my nick and upload fake videos about GG2SMS My account in youtube is "bcnabel76" and no "BcnAbel76" |
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:31 pm |
You say youtube allowed someone to register a different account with different capitalization than your existing one?
That sounds like a quite a poor lapse in quality control. :P |
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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:09 am |
Thanks, hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can do one for Last Bible |
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:31 pm |
It would appear that this particular hack (English version) does not work on hardware. Are these hacks only expected to work on Emulators? | |
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:32 pm |
Sorry for the double post. Meant to say Phantasy Star Gaiden and Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict (english GG2SMS patches) do not work on hardware. | |
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:34 pm Last edited by Wafer on Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:04 pm; edited 2 times in total |
First post, hi!
I had a stab at fixing up the controls on Revo's version of Sonic Drift. You can get past the title screen with any button now. You can pause using the pause button, Start on an MD pad, or down on a second controller (if that's your thing). Graphics have the same glitches that Revo left it with, but that's beyond me right now as I've only just got started with Z80. Tested on Mega Everdrive in a PAL Multi Mega. Edit: Stealth update to get the MD button working. Edit again: Updated to match submission requirements. Edit again again: zip removed, see the wiki page instead. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:41 pm Last edited by Wafer on Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:05 pm; edited 3 times in total |
Double post, but it's a significant feature. After this, I plan to move on to looking at improving and extending the controls on other ROMs.
Sonic Drift v0.4 by Wafer 2019-09-25 * Saturn controller support using an adapter as described on plutiedev dot com slash io-pinout Saturn controller won't work on Japanese consoles. Also, actually fixed to meet submission guidelines this time. Edit: zip removed, see the wiki page instead. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:52 pm |
Can you attach files please? | |
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:12 pm |
Done! Sorry, I thought as a new member that wouldn't work for me. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:21 pm |
Nice to see new GG2SMS hacker.
In my particular opinion add megadrive support to games is great when you need more buttons, or remap "START" not to "PAUSE Button", it is practical because you don't need anymore, just plug & play, add Saturn pad support requires adapter and a bit coding., but if you really want to do it, GO! Welcome! |
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Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:17 am |
Thanks! The Saturn pad read is pretty portable and not a lot of coding (much closer to the 3-button pad than the MD 6-button), I think it can probably be adapted pretty much anywhere, so it's practically free to add it now that I've got it working. I already did the same thing for MD Sonic Spinball, so I'm trying to make it part of my "standard" hacking process. Saturn pads work particularly well with Game Gear games because they output straight SACBRLDU on two polls, so you only have to mask bit 6 off, and because they identify themselves on the first poll you can quickly fall back to MD/Master System polling. The adapter itself is pretty simple. With two extension cables, some wire strippers and a screw terminal most people could hack one together. My priority is: 1. Start game with any button 2. Pause button support 3. Preserve existing controller 2 pause 4. Start button on 3-button pad 5. Start button on Saturn pad |
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:38 am |
Could you publish source for your patches? | |
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Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:31 pm |
Here's the NMI. _RAM_C040_ should be replaced with wherever the control state gets saved.
_LABEL_66_:
push af ld a,$40 ld (_RAM_C040_),a pop af retn Here's the subroutine for reading the controls themselves. You can call it using MDPad instead of SaturnPad if you need to save space. SaturnPad:
ld a,$B4 out ($3F),a in a, (Port_IOPort1) and $3 jp nz,MDPad ld a,$94 out ($3F),a in a, (Port_IOPort1) cpl and $8F ld c,a ld a,$A4 out ($3F),a in a, (Port_IOPort1) cpl and $B rlca rlca rlca rlca or c ld c,a ld a,$84 out ($3F),a jp PadCleanup MDPad: ld a,$A5 out ($3F),a in a, (Port_IOPort1) cpl and $BF ld c,a ld a,$85 out ($3F),a in a, (Port_IOPort1) and $C jp nz,PadCleanup in a, (Port_IOPort1) cpl and $20 rlca rlca or c ld c,a PadCleanup: ld a,$B4 out ($3F),a ld a,(_RAM_C040_) and $40 rlca or c ret |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:20 am |
Can someone patch Jungle Strike to work on the SMS please? | |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:20 pm Last edited by TheNameOfTheGame on Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:13 pm; edited 2 times in total |
I did a cross-check on Game Gear releases with native SMS versions as well as GG2SMS releases. As far as I can tell, these are the remaining titles that the SMS doesn't have a release for:
1990 Taisen Mahjong HaoPai
1991 CJ Elephant Fugitive 1991 Devilish 1991 Magical Tarurūto-kun 1991 Mappy 1991 Pro Yakyuu '91, The 1991 Taisen-gata: Daisenryaku G 1992 Evander Holyfield's Real Deal Boxing 1992 Gambler Jikochuushin Ha 1992 Hyper Pro Yakyuu '92 1992 Kuni-Chan no Game Tengoku Part 2 1992 Majors Pro Baseball, The 1992 PGA Tour Golf II 1992 Wheel of Fortune 1993 Caesars Palace 1993 Choplifter III 1993 Cliffhanger 1993 F-15 Strike Eagle 1993 Faceball 2000 1993 Last Action Hero 1993 Nazo Puyo 2 1993 Pro Yakyuu GG League 1993 Simpsons, The: Bartman Meets Radioactive Man 1993 Taisen Mahjong HaoPai 2 1993 Tengen World Cup Soccer,Kick & Rush JP 1993 World Series Baseball 1994 5 in One Fun Pak 1994 Bubble Bobble 1994 Ernie Els Golf 1994 Gear Works 1994 Hurricanes 1994 Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible 1994 Moldorian: Hikari to Yami no Kyoudai 1994 NBA Jam Tournament Edition 1994 Poker Face Paul's Blackjack 1994 Poker Face Paul's Gin 1994 Poker Face Paul's Poker 1994 Poker Face Paul's Solitaire 1994 Pro Yakyuu GG League '94 1994 Puzzle & Action: Ichidant-R GG 1994 Puzzle & Action: Tanto-R 1994 R.B.I. Baseball '94 1994 Rise of the Robots 1994 Side Pocket 1994 Star Trek Generations: Beyond the Nexus 1994 Star Trek: The Next Generation – The Advanced Holodeck Tutorial 1994 World Derby 1994 World Series Baseball '95,Nomo Hideo no World Series Baseball JP 1995 Chicago Syndicate 1995 F1 World Championship Edition 1995 FIFA Soccer 96 1995 Frank Thomas' Big Hurt Baseball 1995 Gamble Panic 1995 Garfield: Caught in the Act 1995 Godzilla: Kaijuu no Daishingeki 1995 Itchy & Scratchy Game, The 1995 Jungle Strike 1995 Kawasaki Superbikes 1995 Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible S 1995 MLBPA Baseball 1995 NHL All-Star Hockey 1995 Ninku Gaiden: Heroyuki Daikatsugeki 1995 Sports Illustrated: Championship Football & Baseball 1995 Sports Trivia: Championship Edition 1995 Striker 1995 Tama & Friends: 3rd Street Park Tamalympics 1995 Tatakae! Pro Yakyuu Twin League 1995 The Adventures of Batman & Robin 1995 Urban Strike 1995 Zoop 1996 Doraemon: Wakuwaku Pocket Paradise 1996 Panzer Dragoon Mini 1996 Pet Club: Neko Daisuki! 1996 PGA Tour 96 1996 Virtua Fighter Animation,Virtua Fighter Mini JP 2001 Super Battletank |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:17 pm |
Great list, this should help future hackers a lot! Personally I'm more concerned about fixing up the controls existing patches (currently on day 3 of the appropriately titled Batman Forever, I plan on releasing my updates in batches).
This list got me thinking about conversion hacks in general, specifically whether any of the listed games are based on an existing MSX version. If so, it might make more sense to convert those instead, since the display is probably closer. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:29 pm |
Bubble Bobble GG isn't the same game as the SMS version? | |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:47 pm |
Different resolution used, it makes levels different. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:09 pm |
Oh there might be one or two errors, I did the list quick.
The release list for GG is based on wikipedia's release list, so take that for what its worth. :p If you see anything wrong with it, please post it here. |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:38 pm |
Yeah, Sonic Spinball (which is a 1994 game on the Game Gear, not a 1993 game, that's the Mega Drive version) and Cheese Cat-Astrophe Starring Speedy Gonzales were definitely released on the Master System too. Those two were among the last Master System games released in Europe in 1995 together with The Smurfs, and of course not including the oddity that was its 1996 sequel. | |
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:19 pm |
Thanks, I see them now. Also the Smurfs. Took them all off the list. Three less to do! |
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:41 am |
BTW, user "The Simpsons" messaged me with the following.
I invited them to post it in the thread, but no response, so I guess the weird spammer is at it again. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 7:05 am |
Yes, that's the guy. I'll delete him again... | |
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:37 pm |
I wondered why I got a New PM popup with nothing new. I guessed it was a deleted spammer. | |
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:46 pm |
If anyone knows about the SMSPlusPlus open source arduino mod chip for the SMS, it's pretty cool.
One thing that I always wanted was to eliminate the need to have a second joystick plugged in for the GG2SMS hacks. Well, I finally sat down yesterday and went through the sketch for the mod chip and altered the code to make the first pad send the Player 2 Joystick Down signal. Also, had to add a wire from arduino digital pin 5 to the P2 joystick down pin on the Sega. It works very well, you can have a Genesis/Mega Drive 3 or 6 button pad or a regular Master System pad. If your Master System pad is modified to have a pause or start button (Using the TH line) then you can do everything from that one also (50/60Hz switch, Reset, Pause and Player2 Joystick Down). If anyone wants the modified sketch or any information, just let me know. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:24 pm |
I have sms++. It's great. But there's only one issue. There are conversions like tail's adventure that use the megadrive controller. If you have sms++ you won't be able to play those conversion. The same problem with sms test suit. it detects the megadrive controller as a sms controller. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:43 pm |
I thought tail's adventure auto-detects the type of controller. Did they change it? I just tried it on my everdrive X7 with sms++ and megadrive controller and it seemed to work fine. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:22 am Last edited by Wafer on Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:35 am; edited 1 time in total |
Hang tight, peeps. Adding Mega Drive controller support in software is pretty elementary in most cases, even easier than pause button support. I've already got about 10% of the existing hacks updated for that, I just need to get them all packaged up, and fix some small mapping errors in some places. Wherever it doesn't take too much time, I'm also making it so you can progress from the title screen with a standard SMS pad.
I'm moving house in a week, so I have limited time right now, but I'll get the first batch up as soon as I get the bulk of my packing done. With the update Calindro made to Emulicious, successive batches should be even easier. From the second batch onwards, I'll be focusing first on games that have no release on any other Sega console, then games with no SMS release, and then finally the remainder. If you really want to play with an SMS pad, adding a 74HC157 or equivalent with an extra button and optionally a switch on the TH line should be pretty easy, so long as you know which end of a soldering iron to hold. You might need some pull up resistors too, not certain on that though. That would get you start button support for games that support the MD pad, and with a switch to force the TH line high on the controller side you'd maintain compatibility with any SMS titles that mess with IO port pins. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:34 am |
@Wafer are you patching so that users with sms++ and modified master system pads can still benefit from the new code or will it require a megadrive pad exclusively?
Some master system games won't work with a megadrive pad so then we would be back to switching controllers around. That is something I'm trying to avoid. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:42 am |
@TheNameOfTheGame Supporting "start on second pad" is basically free with my routine, so yeah, you'll still get support, unless the SMS++ is doing something weird that I'm unaware of (I do all my testing on a Multi Mega with an X5, no SMS to hand). It also means that JP hardware can still play, since they have no way of supporting MD pads. If you have a button that acts as pause, I'll support that wherever it doesn't cause a headache.
Supporting TH as the start button in software is not something I'll do, since to me it causes more problems than it solves. I'm not sure how one would go about detecting it in a universal fashion. If your TH line is isolated and hooked up to port 2, it should work. If your TH line acts as pause, it will depend on whether I add pause button support to the specific title (about 50/50 chance so far, more likely in games that support Gear to Gear play). Per my previous message, you could add a switch to a Mega Drive pad to force the TH line high on the controller side, that would force it to act as an SMS pad when necessary. AFAIK, the only time MD pads wouldn't work with an SMS title is where the devs accidentally screw with the TH line. Every game I've hacked so far supports MD pad and second controller as start as a minimum. I've also added a failsafe for six button pads since my Sonic Drift hack, but forcing compatibility mode using the mode button is still recommended. Oh, Saturn controllers too, if you're as weird as me. For those curious: most GG games process the controls into S-21RLDU encoding, very similar to MD games and the Saturn's SMPC. The SMS reads pads two and one as DU21RLDU. That's why adding start on second pad was so easy for the hacks that already have it. My routine is polling the port a second time to check whether an MD pad is connected, and then shifting and ORing the inputs together. You can have an MD (or Saturn) pad connected and still use down on a second pad to access start button functions. I imagine that adding support for MD pads in the SMS games that have issues with them would be pretty easy, too. I guess the problem is mainly where devs used the TH line for region detection and saw no reason to reset it to default after. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:53 am |
Everdrive x7 is for megadrive, right? That means sms++ is inside megadrive? I have a sms2 with sms++ and tail's adventure it's a repro cart. rom is v1.5c. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:10 am |
Nope, master everdrive X7 is for master system. Krikzz released a new version a few years ago. So my sms++ is in my sms2 like yours. @Wafer Thanks for the clarification. It's always good to have options so you are doing it right. In fact, I use a megadrive controller, but the chip is stripped out and a few traces routed over to the wires. So I have the comfort of a megadrive controller and software doesn't know it's not a control pad. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:43 am Last edited by Wafer on Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:03 pm; edited 1 time in total |
Okay, I finally got my test rig set up at my new house, so I've been able to test these on my Multi Mega.
Zip contains following patches: EDIT: zip removed to save server space, see the wiki pages instead.
Readmes are included which detail Revo's changes and my own changes as follows:
Note for six button pad users: I highly recommend using compatibility mode on your pad by holding down the mode button (right index finger) when powering on / connecting the pad, otherwise pad reading may be glitchy. There were gonna be more games in this batch, but Aa Harimanada has a hardware bug that I can't duplicate in Emulicious and need to investigate, and whilst Batman Forever is playable with a Mega Drive pad, I'm holding it back to rejig the Master System pad inputs as suggested by TheNameOfTheGame. A few other games have some small inconsistencies in the binaries that I want to check before I release them, and I need to apply the latest version of my routine and techniques to Sonic Drift 1 and 2. Subsequent batches should come much easier now that I've run the gauntlet on Batman Forever (seriously F the Mortal Kombat engine), reliant on my boiler getting fixed quickly this week and my not hitting a burnout. A note for future hackers (maybe me?): Buster Ball seems like a prime candidate for shared screen two player mode if you can figure out what's happening with the gear-to-gear code, though naturally pausing with the second controller would need to be disabled. How would one go about editing the hack pages, or is that strictly an admin-only function? PS. Thanks to Calindro for updating Emulicious and for giving me some pointers to make future hacks easier. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:36 am |
You can now edit/add hacks pages. Look at the existing ones to see how it works, just type in equivalent URLs to add new ones. | |
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Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:27 am |
Thanks, Maxim! I'll get these pages updated later this week. | |
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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:19 pm |
@Wafer Looking good man! Glad your new digs are set up. Might have to put the bypass code in the sms++ sketch so I can try out a Saturn pad on my master system. :) That would be cool. | |
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:16 pm |
I'm so happy to see this work continue. I've always been a big fan of these! Thanks for everyone's contributions. | |
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:05 pm |
Updated my first wiki page, and it's a doozy!
Batman Forever v1.1 You'll want to check the wiki page for this because the controls for SMS pads are... unique, and I put some effort in to make the controls nicely formatted. Thanks to TheNameOfTheGame who played enough of the game to suggest the mappings for the SMS pad, which also influenced the MD pad (you can play it on an MD pad using only thumbs!) I was gonna write a whole rant about all the ways this game was a nightmare to work on, but it actually taught me a lot so we'll call it a draw. Suffice to say that, at one point, the title "Batman Forever" seemed like a threat, and I almost didn't add special mapping for SMS pads at all. I know I said I'd update the pages for my other patches but I just had to put this one to bed first, and it turns out that my former landlord is actually Dr ffffffreaking Robotnik who wants to steal all my rings and/or make me redecorate a three-floor house from top to bottom, so I have no real idea when I'll get to it now. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:37 pm |
Thanks! I messed with your wiki page a bit to simplify the formatting. I guess we never expected to need to show MD control pad buttons... | |
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Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:08 pm |
Congrats on the completed patch! Thanks again for keeping it 100% compatible with sms pads. Hope everything works out with your stuff. Sounds crazy. | |
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Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:49 am |
@Maxim Thanks, that is a bit cleaner! And yeah, I guess I'm the heretic that wants to plug weird controllers into things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just wait until I clean up my updated Sonic Drift patches, I've added controls for the Saturn shoulder buttons.
@TheNameOfTheGame Once I put my mind to it, adding the SMS control map was easier than I expected. I was fully expecting the game to throw me a curve ball, because it had on almost every other step. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:05 am Last edited by Wafer on Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:00 pm; edited 4 times in total |
Three wise men visit with a few late stocking fillers for y'all to take into the new decade:
My usual updates, with the exception that if you want to start Chessmaster from an SMS pad without using the pause button or a second pad, you need to press 1+2 together (I couldn't figure out where and how the title screen was reading the start button, so I just made 1+2 act as start). |
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:22 am |
Fixed the date formatting on the wiki. | |
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:04 am |
Defenders of Oasis V1.21 is already done:
https://www.smspower.org/forums/14742-GameGearToMasterSystemHacks?start=800 You may up to 1.3, but for me it is great with sms pad |
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:21 pm |
Ah, I missed 1.21 because it wasn't in the wiki! :/ My patch is based on the 1.1 patch, so it should be taken down at some point and I'll rebase it. I'll probably just restore pause button support (for people with mods/Mega SG) and add Saturn pad support. | |
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