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It seems quite unknown how many German versions of games there are... they seem to date from early in the SMS years, perhaps only up to 1987. Sega distributed through local companies in European countries, using standardised packaging, so why was Germany different? Maybe some legal requirement? Is there anything similar on other systems?

I've got a couple of german-only games and some of them have the "ariola" sticker.
Also, some of the games say "the sega card" (or cartidge) and others say "die sega card". Very strange indeed.

Isn't (wasn't?) there some legislation about the colour of blood in games in Germany? That's the only reason I can think of (or have seen) different versions of games for that country. According to Wikipedia,

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This of course dramatically impacts sales, so most video game companies selling games into Germany elect to create a special German version that narrowly avoids the index by changing the graphics. Instead of red blood coming out of a wound, green blood is shown, implying that aliens are being killed and not humans; or gears and springs are shown coming out of the wound, implying that the victims are robots.

Of course, I have no idea if the games predate this legislation or if this affects the different releases for Germany in the slightest. :-p

Well, in the case of master system games, I doubt that blood has something to do with specific releases ^^
Weren't some games released in italy with an italian only booklet?

Here's all the German releases I'm aware of:

41003 TransBot (card)
41005 F-16 Fighter (card)
41006 World Grand Prix
41007 Black Belt
41008 Action Fighter
41010 Super Tennis (card)
41011 Astro Warrior/Pit-Pot
41013 Alex Kidd in Miracle World
41018 Great Soccer (card)
41021 Spy vs. Spy (card)
41022 Bank Panic (card)
? Choplifter
? Fantasy Zone

Anyone know of any others? There were also a couple of titles like the Great Soccer cart & F-16 Fighting Falcon where US copies were distributed with a German-only manual.

And yeah, there seem to be a few equally-early titles with Italian manuals, though they just have a standard European cover.

German Fantasy Zone would be a pretty great name for an adult website.

I've seen an italian secret command once, I'll send a couple of mails to german ebayers to see if their game has an instruction manual or a "spielanweisung" :D

I have renamed the topic because I found these:

Two booklets but the box says "Die Mega Cartidge", pretty strange.

This one only said "the mega cartidge" but seems to have a black and white german booklet (like the rpg)

If you got them second hand, somebody might have mixed up the booklets inside.

Just received some games, so I can update anagrama's list:
41001 Choplifter
41002 Fantasy Zone
41003 TransBot (card)
41004 My hero (card)
41005 F-16 Fighter (card)
41006 World Grand Prix
41007 Black Belt
41008 Action Fighter
41009 Pro Wrestling
41010 Super Tennis (card)
41011 Astro Warrior/Pit-Pot
41012 The Ninja
41013 Alex Kidd in Miracle World
41018 Great Soccer (card)
41021 Spy vs. Spy (card)
41022 Bank Panic (card)

If there is any kind of logic, means there should be at least 22 german releases.

I recently won this one so thats 1 more to the list:

http://www.tradera.com/auction/aid_19862776

Nice! :)
What's the part number on the spine?

I dont know yet, I havent received it. It should get here before the weekend though.

I got a Swedish (and an English) instruction-booklet with my copy of Spellcaster back in the days. It says "Dennis Bergström Elektronik AB" at the back off the booklet so I guess they translated it.

Is this known? The box is still in English so I guess there's no difference besides the extra manual.

*edit*
oh and sorry for being sort of off-topic, but I didn't think this was worth starting a new thread for.

Spine number: 41004

As for the swedish manual that isnt too unusual, Ive seen a few localy printed manuals before,seems like most smaller european countries did so.

Seems like most rpgs had two booklets in many european country: the english original and another one.
Pretty interesting ^^

You can added Pro Wrestling on the list, because I have an copy of it.
The number is: 41009

I´m trying to find out which games also exist.

Looking at the other 1986/7 releases, I'd say these are likely candidates:

Ghost House (card)
Teddy Boy (card)
The Ninja
Marksman Shoting/Trap Shooting/Safari Hunt
Wonder Boy

and maybe the 'Great xxx' sports games.

fx wrote

I got a Swedish (and an English) instruction-booklet with my copy of Spellcaster back in the days. It says "Dennis Bergström Elektronik AB" at the back off the booklet so I guess they translated it.

Dennis Bergström was Sega's agent before Brio/Playmix.

I'm bidding on a German-covered Lion king right now. Will submit a scan sometime in the distant future.

You can added the game The Ninja to the list. I´m getting an cartridge with box on Friday. The number is 41012.

Found this on internet:
http://sega.paginas.sapo.pt/YS_MS_01.jpg

After many many many sent mail, found a german great basketball !
So I assume that makes 5 more games to the list

I have a dynamite duke with fold out instructions which are german

Here is my german collection so far
Still got 4 or 5 in the postage labyrinth lol

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My German games collection

If anyone needs anything translated let me know (just send me an email). I can't promise anything (very short on time) but I'll do my best :-)

Kenneth - did you ever get that German Great Basketball?

Yep, it arrived long time go.
Box multilanguage.
Instruction manual, dirt black and white german only (similar to the rpg's one)
But still investigating for the "great xxx" series.

Ive been looking out for the stuff in this thread, I still need a World Grand Prix and Super Tennis Card (think ive got one on the way) + some RPG manuals. As for the stuff that your unsure of ive never seen a German Wonder Boy or Ghost House card. I have also never seen any of the 'Great' sports games in German. Here it is so far anyway.. (oh, also missing my bank panic manual)

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German games

Recieved today German World Grand Prix and Super Tennis Card. So thats it, got all the known German releases complete apart from Bank Panic manual. If anyone see's/ has anymore that arnt known can you update the thread please :)

schlingel on sega8bit has posted this little picture, odd because i thought Bank Panic (41022) was the last German release..

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What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely.

Maxim wrote

What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely.

I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread..

http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598

james costello wrote

Maxim wrote

What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely.

I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread..

http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598

Of course i know it.
It´s on the cover of my Quartet.

schlingel wrote

james costello wrote

Maxim wrote

What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely.

I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread..

http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598

Of course i know it.
It´s on the cover of my Quartet.

I only assumed that you didnt know because you didnt say at first :)

Interesting though, now I wonder when the proper German Quartet will show up..

does golden axe warrior have an official german version, or is the one "findable" in the net just a romhack? because it doesn't seem to be a hack.

It's a hack, same as the Spanish, French and three Brazilian Portuguese ones.

mini update -

I have spent the last few hours updating my collection list with notes. I have noticed that I have a Great Volleyball with an Ariolasoft sticker similer to the one shown above (from Quartet) - this has part number 41027 (The insert is standerd Euro multi-language)

Just found this one on ebay: an english only box of choplifter but with a german barcode price and more importantly a german only black and white manual. Wondering if it's a pre ariolasoft versions release ?

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I think I'm right in saying that Ariolosoft imported lots of North American overstock and produced their own black and white German manuals to go with them (The yellow sticker on the box says something like "With German manual").

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Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Discussion about german releases Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:16 pm Last edited by Kenneth on Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
	921b4cp.jpg (35 KB) Fantasy Zone (DE) photo

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:57 pm Last edited by Maxim on Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
	It seems quite unknown how many German versions of games there are... they seem to date from early in the SMS years, perhaps only up to 1987. Sega distributed through local companies in European countries, using standardised packaging, so why was Germany different? Maybe some legal requirement? Is there anything similar on other systems?

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:09 pm
	I've got a couple of german-only games and some of them have the "ariola" sticker. Also, some of the games say "the sega card" (or cartidge) and others say "die sega card". Very strange indeed.

benryves Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 391 Location: London, United Kingdom	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:17 pm
	Isn't (wasn't?) there some legislation about the colour of blood in games in Germany? That's the only reason I can think of (or have seen) different versions of games for that country. According to Wikipedia, Quote This of course dramatically impacts sales, so most video game companies selling games into Germany elect to create a special German version that narrowly avoids the index by changing the graphics. Instead of red blood coming out of a wound, green blood is shown, implying that aliens are being killed and not humans; or gears and springs are shown coming out of the wound, implying that the victims are robots. Of course, I have no idea if the games predate this legislation or if this affects the different releases for Germany in the slightest. :-p

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:36 pm
	Well, in the case of master system games, I doubt that blood has something to do with specific releases ^^ Weren't some games released in italy with an italian only booklet?

anagrama Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 354 Location: Newcastle, UK	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:01 pm
	Here's all the German releases I'm aware of: 41003 TransBot (card) 41005 F-16 Fighter (card) 41006 World Grand Prix 41007 Black Belt 41008 Action Fighter 41010 Super Tennis (card) 41011 Astro Warrior/Pit-Pot 41013 Alex Kidd in Miracle World 41018 Great Soccer (card) 41021 Spy vs. Spy (card) 41022 Bank Panic (card) ? Choplifter ? Fantasy Zone Anyone know of any others? There were also a couple of titles like the Great Soccer cart & F-16 Fighting Falcon where US copies were distributed with a German-only manual. And yeah, there seem to be a few equally-early titles with Italian manuals, though they just have a standard European cover.

TheRedEye Joined: 20 Sep 2000 Posts: 149	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:18 pm
TheRedEye Joined: 20 Sep 2000 Posts: 149	German Fantasy Zone would be a pretty great name for an adult website.

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:50 pm
	I've seen an italian secret command once, I'll send a couple of mails to german ebayers to see if their game has an instruction manual or a "spielanweisung" :D

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:30 pm
	I have renamed the topic because I found these: Two booklets but the box says "Die Mega Cartidge", pretty strange. This one only said "the mega cartidge" but seems to have a black and white german booklet (like the rpg)

ICEknight Joined: 03 Apr 2001 Posts: 601 Location: Asturias	Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:05 pm
	If you got them second hand, somebody might have mixed up the booklets inside.

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:15 pm Last edited by Kenneth on Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:52 am; edited 3 times in total
	Just received some games, so I can update anagrama's list: 41001 Choplifter 41002 Fantasy Zone 41003 TransBot (card) 41004 My hero (card) 41005 F-16 Fighter (card) 41006 World Grand Prix 41007 Black Belt 41008 Action Fighter 41009 Pro Wrestling 41010 Super Tennis (card) 41011 Astro Warrior/Pit-Pot 41012 The Ninja 41013 Alex Kidd in Miracle World 41018 Great Soccer (card) 41021 Spy vs. Spy (card) 41022 Bank Panic (card) If there is any kind of logic, means there should be at least 22 german releases.

winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:22 pm
winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	I recently won this one so thats 1 more to the list: http://www.tradera.com/auction/aid_19862776

anagrama Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 354 Location: Newcastle, UK	Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:43 pm
	Nice! :) What's the part number on the spine?

winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:46 pm
winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	I dont know yet, I havent received it. It should get here before the weekend though.

fx Joined: 09 Sep 2001 Posts: 236 Location: Umeå, Sweden	Swedish Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:14 am
fx Joined: 09 Sep 2001 Posts: 236 Location: Umeå, Sweden	I got a Swedish (and an English) instruction-booklet with my copy of Spellcaster back in the days. It says "Dennis Bergström Elektronik AB" at the back off the booklet so I guess they translated it. Is this known? The box is still in English so I guess there's no difference besides the extra manual. edit oh and sorry for being sort of off-topic, but I didn't think this was worth starting a new thread for.

winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:08 pm
winona Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 25	Spine number: 41004 As for the swedish manual that isnt too unusual, Ive seen a few localy printed manuals before,seems like most smaller european countries did so.

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:26 pm
	Seems like most rpgs had two booklets in many european country: the english original and another one. Pretty interesting ^^

Benne Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Chemnitz, Germany	Pro Wrestling another German release!!! Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:55 pm
	You can added Pro Wrestling on the list, because I have an copy of it. The number is: 41009 I´m trying to find out which games also exist.

_anagrama Guest	Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:29 pm
_anagrama Guest	Looking at the other 1986/7 releases, I'd say these are likely candidates: Ghost House (card) Teddy Boy (card) The Ninja Marksman Shoting/Trap Shooting/Safari Hunt Wonder Boy and maybe the 'Great xxx' sports games.

idrougge Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 360 Location: Stockholm, Sweden	Re: Swedish Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:00 pm
	fx wrote I got a Swedish (and an English) instruction-booklet with my copy of Spellcaster back in the days. It says "Dennis Bergström Elektronik AB" at the back off the booklet so I guess they translated it. Dennis Bergström was Sega's agent before Brio/Playmix. I'm bidding on a German-covered Lion king right now. Will submit a scan sometime in the distant future.

Benne Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 25 Location: Chemnitz, Germany	Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:57 am
	You can added the game The Ninja to the list. I´m getting an cartridge with box on Friday. The number is 41012.

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:29 pm
	Found this on internet: http://sega.paginas.sapo.pt/YS_MS_01.jpg

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 11:24 am
	After many many many sent mail, found a german great basketball ! So I assume that makes 5 more games to the list

onyx_ Guest	German Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:59 am
onyx_ Guest	I have a dynamite duke with fold out instructions which are german

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:21 pm
	Here is my german collection so far Still got 4 or 5 in the postage labyrinth lol S3010004.jpg (209.55 KB) My German games collection

Christuserloeser Joined: 26 Dec 2004 Posts: 295 Location: Pangea	Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:19 pm
	If anyone needs anything translated let me know (just send me an email). I can't promise anything (very short on time) but I'll do my best :-)

anagrama Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 354 Location: Newcastle, UK	Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:26 pm
	Kenneth - did you ever get that German Great Basketball?

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:30 pm
	Yep, it arrived long time go. Box multilanguage. Instruction manual, dirt black and white german only (similar to the rpg's one) But still investigating for the "great xxx" series.

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:10 pm
	Ive been looking out for the stuff in this thread, I still need a World Grand Prix and Super Tennis Card (think ive got one on the way) + some RPG manuals. As for the stuff that your unsure of ive never seen a German Wonder Boy or Ghost House card. I have also never seen any of the 'Great' sports games in German. Here it is so far anyway.. (oh, also missing my bank panic manual) germanstuff.JPG (125.59 KB) German games

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:11 pm
	Recieved today German World Grand Prix and Super Tennis Card. So thats it, got all the known German releases complete apart from Bank Panic manual. If anyone see's/ has anymore that arnt known can you update the thread please :)

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:52 pm
	schlingel on sega8bit has posted this little picture, odd because i thought Bank Panic (41022) was the last German release.. ffffffqk5.png (70.52 KB)

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:59 pm
	What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely.

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:43 pm
	Maxim wrote What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely. I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread.. http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598

schlingel Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 34	Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:03 pm
schlingel Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 34	james costello wrote Maxim wrote What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely. I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread.. http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598 Of course i know it. It´s on the cover of my Quartet.

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:31 pm
	schlingel wrote james costello wrote Maxim wrote What game is it from? Don't be afraid of linking to the sega8bit forums, it makes life easier for those of us who don't follow them so closely. I don't think he knows which game it is (at time of posting this), anyway here is the thread.. http://shinobiman.proboards15.com/index.cgi?board=ebay&action=display&thread=1192259598 Of course i know it. It´s on the cover of my Quartet. I only assumed that you didnt know because you didnt say at first :) Interesting though, now I wonder when the proper German Quartet will show up..

justajoestar Guest	Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:56 pm
justajoestar Guest	does golden axe warrior have an official german version, or is the one "findable" in the net just a romhack? because it doesn't seem to be a hack.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14745 Location: London	Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:16 am
	It's a hack, same as the Spanish, French and three Brazilian Portuguese ones.

james costello Joined: 17 Dec 2005 Posts: 537 Location: England	Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:31 pm
	mini update - I have spent the last few hours updating my collection list with notes. I have noticed that I have a Great Volleyball with an Ariolasoft sticker similer to the one shown above (from Quartet) - this has part number 41027 (The insert is standerd Euro multi-language)

Kenneth Joined: 20 Dec 2004 Posts: 739 Location: Lyon, France	Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:51 am
	Just found this one on ebay: an english only box of choplifter but with a german barcode price and more importantly a german only black and white manual. Wondering if it's a pre ariolasoft versions release ? s-l1600 (2).jpg (173.51 KB) s-l1600.jpg (215.08 KB)

retrokevretro Joined: 23 Jun 2015 Posts: 36 Location: Bolton, England, UK	Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:39 pm
	I think I'm right in saying that Ariolosoft imported lots of North American overstock and produced their own black and white German manuals to go with them (The yellow sticker on the box says something like "With German manual").

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