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The Best VGM's
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Hello all
Thanks to the new release of Maxims wonderful in_vgm Winamp plugin, I've been listening to a lot of VGM music recently. Inspired by an old thread (which I couldn't find with a quick search), I'd like to ask: what's your favorite, released SMS VGM? To list a few of my own favorites: Mystical Mountains, Psycho Fox Side-Crawler's Dance, Wonder Boy III Title Screen, Micro Machines Green House, Home Alone Below is some of the games to which the music, in my oppinion, fits perfectly: Ecco the Dolphin Castle of Illusion Fantasy Zone I & II ...and of course Prince of Persia :P Also, I've always been thinking about the music for Cosmic Spacehead. I am very sure I would have gone completely insane if I had played that game as a child. It's some really great music, it's just so excessively chippy that it's actually quite ridiculous. |
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Japanese SMS BIOS - Space Harrier Theme
Hardly needs to be mentioned. This is presumably what happens when you give a music programmer more ROM space and CPU cycles than he would normally get. Most of Ys is unfeasibly good. Ristar is completely unlike anything else, which is either very good or very bad. Bah, I can't decide. |
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Wonder Boy III's entire soundtrack is very good. I couldn't find a single track I didn't like.
Out Run 3D's soundtrack is also good, depsite the fact that Magical Sound Shower and Last Wave are the only two songs that made it from the arcade version. Phantasy Star is another game that has an awesome soundtrack. |
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My List
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Hello This is my list of cool VGM's
-Japanese SMS BIOS Space Harrier Theme Demo -Phantasy Star -Ys -Alex Kidd The Lost Stars -Weonderboy 3 Dragons Trap - The Castle (SG-1000) -Lemmings running songs through my head..... thinking........ thinking...... Ah! -Aztec Adventure -Sonic 2 (Credits) All I can think of for now Jacko |
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Well...... =P
Aztec Adventure Psychic World (these two are the soundtracks that put me into the VGM world) ^_^ And... Fantasy Zone 2 Ys (probably the best Master System soundtrack) SpellCaster Ghouls'n Ghosts Monster World 2 (Wonder Boy 3...) Lucky Dime Caper Renegade and much more.... =P |
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My faves are:
Fantastic Dizzy - annoyingly catchy Cosmic spacehead - same sonic 2 - some suck but others are decent streets of rage 2 - sor1 music is best on genesis, but sor2 is best on sms IMO black belt - really decent |
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In preference order:
BIOS - Space Harrier Main Theme demo Golvellius - Input Password Golvellius - Fairy Wonder Boy III - Side-Crawler's Dance Wonder Boy III - The Dragon's Trap Phantasy Star - Medusa Phantasy Star - Boss Dungeon Double Dragon - Mission 3 Double Dragon - Mission 4 Golvellius - Fifth Boss - Warlic Sonic The Hedgehog - Scrap Brain Zone Kenseiden - Warlock Battle |
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Ack! Nobody ever mentions these:
Sonic 2 - Sky High Zone Sonic 2 - Under Ground Zone Sonic 2 - Aqua Lake Zone (these three have a special place in my childhood, including the levels themselves) Sonic The Hedgehog - Labyrinth Zone -> IMO, the best Aquatic Labyrinth song from all versions of StHh... someone could make a good resampling of it... anyone? :) Alex Kidd in Miracle World - Castle Castle of Illusion - Clock Tower Alien 3 - Episode 1 Ninja Gaiden (the entire soundtrack) Ghost House - House Lemmings Ghouls 'n' Ghosts (the entire soundtrack too, I kept all the songs in my memory my entire life!) - but the Mega Drive soundtrack is better (you know, I'd love to have these songs orchestrated or just played with real instruments) Don't think Ristar soundtrack is for 8-bit, but the 16-bit soundtrack is really cool. |
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Unfair! I was going only for full soundtracks... =P
By music: After Burner - Super Stripe Alex Kidd Lost Stars - Machine World Alex Kidd Miracle World - Castle Alien 3 - Episode 2 Altered Beast - Level 2 & 3 (Boss in Mega Drive version...) Astro Warrior - Nebula Zone Aztec Adventure - Underground Waterway Black Belt - Boss Cyber Shinobi - At the Docks Double Dragon - Mission 4 Dragon Crystal - Level 11-20 E-SWAT - Level 3 E-SWAT - Level 4 E-SWAT - Level 5 Fantasy Zone 2 - Bow Bow Fantasy Zone 2 - Sbardian Gain Ground - Middle Ages Gain Ground - Final Era Ghost House - In Game Ghouls'n Ghosts - Round 2 Ghouls'n Ghosts - Round 4 Ghouls'n Ghosts - Boss 4 Golvellius - Vertical Cave Golvellius - Overworld 2 Lord of the Sword - Battling Lucky Dime Caper - Magica Castle Monster World (thats WBinML) - Endless Labyrinth Monster World 2 (thats WB3) - The Monster Lair Phantasy Star - Tower R-Type - Boss Sonic - Labyrinth Sonic 2 - Green Hills SpellCaster - Shrine SpellCaster - Underwater SpellCaster - Final Battle Thunder Blade - First person Ys - Beat of Terror Ys - Tower of Shadow of Death Ys - Morning Grow Zillion - Maze (Inside Planet) So many favorites.... O_o |
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If there's one thing that's good about that game, it's the music. I wonder who did it... |
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Rastan
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I can't believe no one mentionned Rastan!
Great game (*), few music but great music. Rastan - Outside Rastan - Castle (*) Unless you don't understand how to jump between platforms. |
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Don't know if these are all VGM'd (I use the KSS versions), but these games have my absolute favourite soundtracks on the SMS:
R-Type: Super Stage music (FM version) Sagaia (better than the Genesis ver, IMHO) Miracle Warriors/Haja no Fuuin (FM version) Space Harrier: Battle Field & Haya-Oh |
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Ach! I forgot about Zillion and Space Harrier. Love that music. | |
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Hmm, I too forgot about Zillion - inside planet.
Talking about kss, where can I find SMS kss? Although I prefer vgz, kss has better OPLL. |
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Here: http://manbowj.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ You have to convert them yourself using the SMS/GG ROMs of the games. I was also considering releasing all of the existing KSS files already converted, but I figured nobody cared, as they all loved VGM. Does anybody care? |
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Hi, Chris.
I care. I prefer KSS format and wish it would've been adapted to cover a larger amount of soundtracks. A few years [!] back, I prepared a good number of KSS files for my own use, but later lost them due to lack of a proper backup. I'd definitely be interested in having a complete set of what is available. - Death Adder Webmaster, www.superfighter.com |
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KSS vs. VGM
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What is the advantage you see in KSS over VGM? The format itself does not have "better OPLL", as both depend entirely on the chip emulation used in the player; I use EMU2413 because it has the reputation of being the best, and compared to a real chip I find it sounds very good. There are a few issues with EMU2413's emulation of the rhythm mode control registers, but apart from that it's fine.
KSS has a much higher emulation overhead and its biggest problem is the difficulty in ripping music engines from games. VGM is very easy to rip and its support for looping control and tagging makes it much easier to use. I know I am biased, but I want to know what you see as the problems with it. |
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Thanks to ccovell for that link to the KSS archive. The one thing I do like about KSS is that it DOES rip straight from the code. There's no hand-trimming "middleman" required. I swear, just about every VGM package, carefully checked as it may have been, has some small problem, usually looping, with at least one file. Curse my sensitive ears! Drives me nuts sometimes...
On another note: At the aforementioned KSS archive, there's a file for Alex Kidd in Shinobi World. Seems there's two pieces of music that were not used in the game and are not in the available VGM package... |
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Well, VGM trimming can be tricky and mistakes do happen. All it takes is an email or forum post and we can see about fixing it.
Regarding the unused music tracks - yes, ideally we'd hack every game (easier than ripping KSS) to check for them, but they only turn up in maybe 1 in 20 cases. I'll definitely hack AKSW though.. Maxim |
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When I said kss has better OPLL, I wasn`t taking in account the technical facts. But there are just more things to it than the technical part. First of all, there are only few FM VGM tunes and no new FM tunes are being ripped (and I agree completely with the reason).
Second, although BIOS Space Harrier demo sounds very good, other VGM FM tunes like Dragon`s Trap and Phantasy Star sounds very badly to my ears, even taking in account that I never listened thoso songs on the real thing, but I do have a MSX with OPLL and it just don`t sound like a real OPLL chip. In the other hand, my KSS MSX FM tunes, while not very accured, appear to be more advanced than VGM, but only with the OPLL, the PSG part is worse and VGM really rocks. Anyway, sorry if I was a little disrespectful with your work. I didn`t mean that. :( |
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geez, can it be any easier? |
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I badly miss chip-generated music, in the non-CD sense I mean, it just isn't the same these days.
Out of all the VGM's released thus far I'd have to say that Rastan, Streets of Rage I & II and GG Shinobi II are amongst my all time favourites, generally anything by Yuzo Koshiro, but... my absolute favourite that I hum and whistle everywhere I go has not been released :( Kung Fu Kid :) I have it on Mini Disk, a bit rough though. So am I just plain death/mad or dose anyone else like Kung Fu Kid's catchy tunes? |
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My personal favs
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I have to say, before I post my favs, that I am very greatful for the emulator that plays SMS music. My whole teen life I have been listening to SMS music with the aid of the sound test option and taping them...and figuring them out on my bass too! Here are my favs, no order:
1. Quartet... the whole soundtrack, the best to me is the last boss and round 1 2. Zillion... the whole soundtrack...I also have the Anime soundtrack (and know all the songs on my bass) 3. Space Harrier : The whole soundtrack (also know on my bass...the solo to Battlefield, too) 4. Fantasy Zone : La Dune and Plaleaf (on bass too) 5. Teddy Boy : Round and Bonus 6. Astro Warrior : Intro, 1st & 2nd rounds Thanks for reading! PEACE! |
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A few tips: - get an MP3 output plugin for Winamp, for example out_lame, and you can make MP3s that will play on an iPod or other device. (If you prefer other formats, there are output plugins for them too.) - when trying to "figure out" melodies, play with the channel muting options in the plugin configuration to isolate a single part of the tune. You can also set the speed to be slower so you can figure out the fast parts more easily. |
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Among others, i'd say Golden axe: very well done adaptation, added harmonics... of course, Ys, or even Double Dragon (stage 3)... | |
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I love songs from sonic triple trouble (that's why I ripped them!), especially Sunset Park Zone - Act 3 (train). I also usually like all other sonic's soundtracks (the best sonic game ever? sonic 3 & knuckles, genesis).
and I agree with maxim saying that Space Harrier's theme included in Bios is awesomely good. also (alphabetical order): Alex Kidd - The Lost Stars - Toy World & Monsters World (FM version) Hang On - Hidden Track (which is a shortened version of the very good "winning run", complete in other version of hang on e.g. Genesis or Arcade) Lemmings - Ronda Alla Turca, She'll Be Coming 'Round The Mountain When She Comes M.A.S.H. - Suicide Is Painless regards. |
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