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Well, I have a lot to write here...

1) I'm working on these new complete soundtracks (1 by 1 of course):
Land of Illusion (seems like no one did it yet...)
Lucky Dime Caper
Wonder Boy
well, Land of Illusion and Wonder Boy were fairly easy to dump and to find good names for the stages, but that's not what I could see in Lucky Dime Caper... I'm having problems naming the tracks.... so, if anyone can help me, I really appreciate it...

2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^

3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know...

4) I know there is something else..... but ..... hm.... later ^^

Thanks in advance for any help! ^_^

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> well, Land of Illusion and Wonder Boy were fairly easy to dump and to find good names for the stages, but that's not what I could see in Lucky Dime Caper... I'm having problems naming the tracks.... so, if anyone can help me, I really appreciate it...

The stages are:

The Northern Woods
The Great American Forest
The Andes Mountains
The Tropical Isles
The Pyramids
The South Pole
Magica's Castle

The manual doesn't give useful names for anything else.

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> 2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^

Well, the ultimate plan is to hack *every* game to check for this. At best, a game hack takes about an hour, and it's not the most exciting thing.

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> 3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know...

Japanese SMSs had an extra higher-quality sound chip and many Japanese-made games have music in both regular PSG format and also in FM format. In Meka, turn on FM emulation in the Sound menu and then load a Japanese game, eg. Thunderblade, Wonder Boy III, and a lot more.

However, FM trimming is not perfect in the current release of VGMTool. In particular, it very often screws up the percussion channels. As a result, I am officially recommending that anyone ripping FM music keeps a copy of the original VGM logs and a note of the trimming offsets in a text file; so when I get it figured out (one day) it will be easy to re-trim them.

Maxim

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> 2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^

That would require advanced hacking but once you get into it, it can be much more efficient to hack the game. Try to read the different available documentations about that and see if you can follow it and if you want to be a SMS hacker :)

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> 3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know...

In Japan, the Sega Mark III received an extension called the FM Unit which was later included in the Japanese Master System. This extension was never made available outside of Japan (well, except in Korea). It provide a different sound chip.
In MEKA, you can enable emulation of this sound chip in the "SOUND -> FM UNIT" menu.
The compatibility list mentions all games supporting this sound chip.

So, a FM soundtrack is basically a VGM dump playing with the FM Unit. See in the VGM archives that some games have both PSG (regular sound chip) and FM VGM packages. You can listen to both to understand the difference.

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> 4) I know there is something else..... but ..... hm.... later ^^
> Thanks in advance for any help! ^_^

Thanks for the packages!

(we answered on the same moment, except that he was first!)

Hm... thanks for the names!

so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm...

about the FM and hacking, I think I don't have the time to learn right now... I have the college to worry about too.... so I will see what I can do on some weekends, if I have the time...

PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^'

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> so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm...

If it's the same music for all bosses, yes. The manual section telling the story is titled "The Search is On!" but that's not really appropriate.

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> PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^'

Yes, the Great American Lake Forests. Of course. Yeah.

Maxim

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> > so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm...

> If it's the same music for all bosses, yes. The manual section telling the story is titled "The Search is On!" but that's not really appropriate.

> > PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^'

> Yes, the Great American Lake Forests. Of course. Yeah.

> Maxim

Now I'm confused.... o_o

hm.... maybe if I list all of the tracks here I get more informed...

1. Intro
2. Stage Select
3. The Northern Woods
4. The Great American Lake Forests (....) & The South Pole
5. The Andes Mountains
6. The Tropical Isles
7. The Pyramids
8. Boss
9. Story
10. Magica's Castle
11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss)
12. Victory
13. Ending
14. Invincibility
15. Death
16. Continue

Is that right? ^_^

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> 1. Intro
> 2. Stage Select
> 3. The Northern Woods
> 8. Boss
> 9. Story
> 4. The Great American ~~Lake~~ Forest~~s (....)~~ & The South Pole
> 5. The Andes Mountains
> 6. The Tropical Isles
> 7. The Pyramids
> 10. Magica's Castle
> 11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss)
> 12. Victory
> 13. Ending
> 14. Invincibility
> 15. Death
> 16. Continue

I'd go with this. The Great American Lake Forests was a joke :P I'd put the boss/story between the first two levels - I presume Victory is only for the last boss?

Maxim

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> > 1. Intro
> > 2. Stage Select
> > 3. The Northern Woods
> > 4. Boss
> > 5. Story
> > 6. The Great American Forest & The South Pole
> > 7. The Andes Mountains
> > 8. The Tropical Isles
> > 9. The Pyramids
> > 10. Magica's Castle
> > 11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss)
> > 12. Victory
> > 13. Ending
> > 14. Invincibility
> > 15. Death
> > 16. Continue

> I'd go with this. The Great American Lake Forests was a joke :P I'd put the boss/story between the first two levels - I presume Victory is only for the last boss?

Yes, victory is only for the final boss ^_^

hm... ok, I'll put Boss and Story between the first 2 stages.... (even if I can choose to start playing at stage 3...)

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Johnnyz Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 213 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil	New VGM Files coming soon 2: the return Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 12:51 am
	Well, I have a lot to write here... 1) I'm working on these new complete soundtracks (1 by 1 of course): Land of Illusion (seems like no one did it yet...) Lucky Dime Caper Wonder Boy well, Land of Illusion and Wonder Boy were fairly easy to dump and to find good names for the stages, but that's not what I could see in Lucky Dime Caper... I'm having problems naming the tracks.... so, if anyone can help me, I really appreciate it... 2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^ 3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know... 4) I know there is something else..... but ..... hm.... later ^^ Thanks in advance for any help! ^_^

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14751 Location: London	Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:23 am
	Quote > well, Land of Illusion and Wonder Boy were fairly easy to dump and to find good names for the stages, but that's not what I could see in Lucky Dime Caper... I'm having problems naming the tracks.... so, if anyone can help me, I really appreciate it... The stages are: The Northern Woods The Great American Forest The Andes Mountains The Tropical Isles The Pyramids The South Pole Magica's Castle The manual doesn't give useful names for anything else. Quote > 2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^ Well, the ultimate plan is to hack every game to check for this. At best, a game hack takes about an hour, and it's not the most exciting thing. Quote > 3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know... Japanese SMSs had an extra higher-quality sound chip and many Japanese-made games have music in both regular PSG format and also in FM format. In Meka, turn on FM emulation in the Sound menu and then load a Japanese game, eg. Thunderblade, Wonder Boy III, and a lot more. However, FM trimming is not perfect in the current release of VGMTool. In particular, it very often screws up the percussion channels. As a result, I am officially recommending that anyone ripping FM music keeps a copy of the original VGM logs and a note of the trimming offsets in a text file; so when I get it figured out (one day) it will be easy to re-trim them. Maxim

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8661 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:26 am
	Quote > 2) I'm using that code to freeze the game and get the music without any SFX, but I can't find any secret/hidden/unreleased musics, so I can't say what I'm doing is really complete... if anyone is up to search for a secret/hidden/unreleased music and complete a soundtrack I did, hm..... just do it ^^ That would require advanced hacking but once you get into it, it can be much more efficient to hack the game. Try to read the different available documentations about that and see if you can follow it and if you want to be a SMS hacker :) Quote > 3) What is a FM soundtrack? I really don't know... In Japan, the Sega Mark III received an extension called the FM Unit which was later included in the Japanese Master System. This extension was never made available outside of Japan (well, except in Korea). It provide a different sound chip. In MEKA, you can enable emulation of this sound chip in the "SOUND -> FM UNIT" menu. The compatibility list mentions all games supporting this sound chip. So, a FM soundtrack is basically a VGM dump playing with the FM Unit. See in the VGM archives that some games have both PSG (regular sound chip) and FM VGM packages. You can listen to both to understand the difference. Quote > 4) I know there is something else..... but ..... hm.... later ^^ > Thanks in advance for any help! ^_^ Thanks for the packages!

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8661 Location: Paris, France	Maxim beats me Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:27 am
	(we answered on the same moment, except that he was first!)

Johnnyz Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 213 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil	Re: Re: New VGM Files coming soon 2: the return Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 12:52 am
	Hm... thanks for the names! so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm... about the FM and hacking, I think I don't have the time to learn right now... I have the college to worry about too.... so I will see what I can do on some weekends, if I have the time... PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^'

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14751 Location: London	Re: Re: New VGM Files coming soon 2: the return Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 8:06 am
	Quote > so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm... If it's the same music for all bosses, yes. The manual section telling the story is titled "The Search is On!" but that's not really appropriate. Quote > PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^' Yes, the Great American Lake Forests. Of course. Yeah. Maxim

Johnnyz Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 213 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil	Re: Re: New VGM Files coming soon 2: the return Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:11 am
	Quote > > so Boss stays Boss, and Story stays Story? hm... > If it's the same music for all bosses, yes. The manual section telling the story is titled "The Search is On!" but that's not really appropriate. > > PS: The Great American Forest? I thought the stage 2 was something about a lake... ^^' > Yes, the Great American Lake Forests. Of course. Yeah. > Maxim Now I'm confused.... o_o hm.... maybe if I list all of the tracks here I get more informed... 1. Intro 2. Stage Select 3. The Northern Woods 4. The Great American Lake Forests (....) & The South Pole 5. The Andes Mountains 6. The Tropical Isles 7. The Pyramids 8. Boss 9. Story 10. Magica's Castle 11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss) 12. Victory 13. Ending 14. Invincibility 15. Death 16. Continue Is that right? ^_^

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14751 Location: London	Re: Re: New VGM Files coming soon 2: the return Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 7:48 am
	Quote > 1. Intro > 2. Stage Select > 3. The Northern Woods > 8. Boss > 9. Story > 4. The Great American ~~Lake~~ Forest~~s (....)~~ & The South Pole > 5. The Andes Mountains > 6. The Tropical Isles > 7. The Pyramids > 10. Magica's Castle > 11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss) > 12. Victory > 13. Ending > 14. Invincibility > 15. Death > 16. Continue I'd go with this. The Great American Lake Forests was a joke :P I'd put the boss/story between the first two levels - I presume Victory is only for the last boss? Maxim

Johnnyz Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 213 Location: Porto Alegre, Brazil	Re: Re: Re: Re: ... Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 1:36 am
	Quote > > 1. Intro > > 2. Stage Select > > 3. The Northern Woods > > 4. Boss > > 5. Story > > 6. The Great American Forest & The South Pole > > 7. The Andes Mountains > > 8. The Tropical Isles > > 9. The Pyramids > > 10. Magica's Castle > > 11. Magica de Spell (.... Final Boss) > > 12. Victory > > 13. Ending > > 14. Invincibility > > 15. Death > > 16. Continue > I'd go with this. The Great American Lake Forests was a joke :P I'd put the boss/story between the first two levels - I presume Victory is only for the last boss? Yes, victory is only for the final boss ^_^ hm... ok, I'll put Boss and Story between the first 2 stages.... (even if I can choose to start playing at stage 3...)

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