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Does anyone know a definitive number of PAL releases for the Sega Master System please? I have read around 269 but google seems to have quite a lot of conflicting information. Any additional sources would be very gratefully received along with a link perhaps of what they are. Many thanks

Nope, tried that. Every site is different. Then I find a game constantly that’s missing off the list.

There’s a lot of tec toy Brazilian stuff too , sort of unofficial

L10N37 wrote

Nope, tried that. Every site is different. Then I find a game constantly that’s missing off the list.

There’s a lot of tec toy Brazilian stuff too , sort of unofficial

Yes it's bonkers and quite frustrating.

I'm not sure a definitive answer would ever be possible since there will probably always be some doubts, unconfirmed information, mistakes in research that get repeated everywhere, differing opinions in definitions, etc.

But presumably someone at SMS power could provide the best and most likely answer over anywhere else online. Ideally with footnotes for those interested in the gray areas.

We have lists at the bottom of the Games page, here's our EU list.

Do you want to count Portuguese Purple releases of TecToy stuff? How about grey imports of US titles in the UK by mainstream shops? How about the early German and Italian releases?

Maxim wrote

We have lists at the bottom of the Games page, here's our EU list.

Do you want to count Portuguese Purple releases of TecToy stuff? How about grey imports of US titles in the UK by mainstream shops? How about the early German and Italian releases?

This looks great, thank you. It gives a really good outline of all the games and their variants if you wanted to know that.

One question, how do you know there's nothing missing? I guess I'm asking, whoever put the list together in their first place did he work at Sega or something?

It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves...

Maxim wrote

It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves...

Cool, who's Omar?

The guy who has run this website for the last 23 years and bought thousands of games to document everything.

Maxim wrote

The guy who has run this website for the last 23 years and bought thousands of games to document everything.

That's so awesome, and its a really great forum, every's really helpful. Thanks for your help mate.

8BitBoy wrote

Maxim wrote

It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves...

Cool, who's Omar?

Bock.

Just to be clear, the Games-Releases entry on our DB are not actually complete for all systems, and for e.g. SMS euro not complete if you want to include minor variations (with/without tm sign, etc.).

Also even thought we tend to have thorough knowledge nowadays there are probably missing entries in the actual database, e.g. I haven't done a second pass on European releases, waiting to be spotted and fixed.

Other than that: it's good to note that the fields in our database are sourced from actual real world artifacts, whereas 99% of internet databases are awkwardly sourced from other databases.

Bock wrote

whereas 99% of internet databases are awkwardly sourced from other databases.

ain't that the truth, it's ridiculous how much poor quality information is out there and it just gets constantly copied about and spreads around more.

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8BitBoy Joined: 15 Aug 2019 Posts: 260 Location: Lancashire UK	PAL Releases (Total Number) - SMS Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:22 am
	Does anyone know a definitive number of PAL releases for the Sega Master System please? I have read around 269 but google seems to have quite a lot of conflicting information. Any additional sources would be very gratefully received along with a link perhaps of what they are. Many thanks

L10N37 Joined: 27 Jun 2020 Posts: 212	Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:13 am
L10N37 Joined: 27 Jun 2020 Posts: 212	Nope, tried that. Every site is different. Then I find a game constantly that’s missing off the list. There’s a lot of tec toy Brazilian stuff too , sort of unofficial

8BitBoy Joined: 15 Aug 2019 Posts: 260 Location: Lancashire UK	Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:16 am
	L10N37 wrote Nope, tried that. Every site is different. Then I find a game constantly that’s missing off the list. There’s a lot of tec toy Brazilian stuff too , sort of unofficial Yes it's bonkers and quite frustrating.

TheAssassin Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 177	Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:41 am
TheAssassin Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 177	I'm not sure a definitive answer would ever be possible since there will probably always be some doubts, unconfirmed information, mistakes in research that get repeated everywhere, differing opinions in definitions, etc. But presumably someone at SMS power could provide the best and most likely answer over anywhere else online. Ideally with footnotes for those interested in the gray areas.

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14744 Location: London	Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:03 pm
	We have lists at the bottom of the Games page, here's our EU list. Do you want to count Portuguese Purple releases of TecToy stuff? How about grey imports of US titles in the UK by mainstream shops? How about the early German and Italian releases?

8BitBoy Joined: 15 Aug 2019 Posts: 260 Location: Lancashire UK	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:10 am
	Maxim wrote We have lists at the bottom of the Games page, here's our EU list. Do you want to count Portuguese Purple releases of TecToy stuff? How about grey imports of US titles in the UK by mainstream shops? How about the early German and Italian releases? This looks great, thank you. It gives a really good outline of all the games and their variants if you wanted to know that. One question, how do you know there's nothing missing? I guess I'm asking, whoever put the list together in their first place did he work at Sega or something?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14744 Location: London	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:43 am
	It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves...

8BitBoy Joined: 15 Aug 2019 Posts: 260 Location: Lancashire UK	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:49 am
	Maxim wrote It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves... Cool, who's Omar?

Maxim Site Admin Joined: 19 Oct 1999 Posts: 14744 Location: London	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:41 pm
	The guy who has run this website for the last 23 years and bought thousands of games to document everything.

8BitBoy Joined: 15 Aug 2019 Posts: 260 Location: Lancashire UK	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:46 pm
	Maxim wrote The guy who has run this website for the last 23 years and bought thousands of games to document everything. That's so awesome, and its a really great forum, every's really helpful. Thanks for your help mate.

KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 511	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:55 pm
KingMike Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 511	8BitBoy wrote Maxim wrote It was Omar, probably a greater authority than Sega themselves... Cool, who's Omar? Bock.

Bock Site Admin Joined: 08 Jul 2001 Posts: 8651 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:54 pm
	Just to be clear, the Games-Releases entry on our DB are not actually complete for all systems, and for e.g. SMS euro not complete if you want to include minor variations (with/without tm sign, etc.). Also even thought we tend to have thorough knowledge nowadays there are probably missing entries in the actual database, e.g. I haven't done a second pass on European releases, waiting to be spotted and fixed. Other than that: it's good to note that the fields in our database are sourced from actual real world artifacts, whereas 99% of internet databases are awkwardly sourced from other databases.

TheAssassin Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 177	Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:41 pm
TheAssassin Joined: 06 Jan 2005 Posts: 177	Bock wrote whereas 99% of internet databases are awkwardly sourced from other databases. ain't that the truth, it's ridiculous how much poor quality information is out there and it just gets constantly copied about and spreads around more.

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