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Model / Serial Number Request
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 10:46 pm
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I've been requesting Serial & Model numbers over here for a couple of months now.
My main aim was to emulate this by estimating the number of Master Systems manufactured from using the formula for the German Tank Problem. It has, however, resulted in more than just that, such as the discovery of previously undocumented models and region codes .... more on this soon! The vast majority of my model/serial numbers have been obtained from Ebay ... for export models .... mainly US/UK/DE numbers, but serials/models outside of that are under-represented. For JP models/serials I've used Yahoo.jp. It's a regionally biased sample, so isn't yet representative of all PAL models, but US & JP is homogeneous enough that I think I have a pretty accurate estimation for those two markets. Now, the more Model/Serial numbers I have, the more accurate the estimations. So, in case some here haven't seen my thread on the other site, and before I publish my estimations based on the models/serials so far I'm requesting people post their model/serial numbers. It doesn't matter what region or model, all will eventually be useful, although for now I'm just going to analyse US & JP models. |
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:10 am |
Here are mines US and JP Machines, I have BR (Tec Toy) Machines too if you want.
US SEGA SYSTEM POWER BASE MODEL 3000 S/N: 78509659 SEGA OF AMERICA INC MADE IN HONG KONG BIOS 1.3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- US SEGA SYSTEM POWER BASE MODEL ??10 (Can't read first numbers, but I think this is 3010) S/N: 38207347 SEGA OF AMERICA INC. MADE IN TAIWAN BIOS 1.3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JP SEGA MARK III S/N 4861278 PAT. PENDING MADE IN JAPAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- JP SEGA MASTER SYSTEM MODEL MK 2000 S/N:37800134 SEGA ENTERPRISES LTD. MADE IN TAIWAN BIOS 2.0 |
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 7:09 am |
Here are some of mine that I have noted.
The country in parenthesis is usually the country where I *purchased* it. SMS 1 - Europe Boxed "The Sega Master System" (UK) Early Gray box, BIOS Snail Model 3010, Serial 77654171 Boxed "Sega Master System" (UK) No game picture on front! BIOS Unknown (unchecked) Power Base PAL-I Model 3005-05-B, Serial 40b 97509 Made in China Boxed "Sega Master System" (FR) Hang On picture on front. BIOS Hang On. Power Base RGB FR Model 3005-09-B, Serial 40G 41347 Boxed "Sega Master System Plus" (EU) BIOS Hang On / Safari Hunt Power Base RGB FR Model 3005-09-A, Serial 40c 52532 Boxed "Sega Master System" (FR) Alex Kidd outside level picture Power Base RGB FR Model 3005-09-B, Serial 40a 40031 Boxed "Sega Master System" (UK) Alex Kidd underwater picture BIOS Alex Kidd Power Base PAL-I Model 3005-05-D, Serial 40h 69676 Boxed "Sega Master System" (IT) "Fantastico: Giochi Omaggio Gia' Inclusi!" and "Distributore esclusivo Giochi Preziosi" stickers on the box. BIOS Hang On Power Base PAL-G Model 3005-13-B, Serial 49G 68871 In blue (rental?) Sega cardboard box (FR) Power Base RGB FR Model 3005-09-C, Serial 40b 65810 Loose with rare BIOS 2.0 Model No.: 3010 Serial No.: 77541514 Loose with Snail Game BIOS Power Base RGB FR Model No.: 3005-09-A Serial No.: 40C 37928 Loose with Hang On / Snail Game BIOS Power Base RGB FR Model No. 3005-09-B Serial No. 49H 51704 Loose Hang On / Safari Hunt BIOS Power Base RGB FR Model No. 3005-09-A Serial No. 40I 66264 Loose German Power Base PAL-G Model 3005-18-A Serial No.: 40J 41990 SMS 1 - USA Boxed "The Sega Master System" TransBot card showing on box art. BIOS Hang On / Safari Hunt. With Light Phaser Model 3010, Serial 16159738 Boxed "Sega Master System" BIOS Hang On / Safari Hunt With Light Phaser Model 3010-A, Serial 38455239 Boxed "SegaScope 3-D System" BIOS Missile Defense 3-D With Light Phaser, 3-D Glasses Model 3010-C, Serial 48A48607 Loose with BIOS Snail Model 3010, Serial 16129465 Loose with BIOS Missile Defense 3-D Model 3010-C, Serial 48A33494 SMS 1 - Others Loose Soviet Union No card slot, no reset button, no expansion slot Model MK-3096-19, Serial No: B00001086 Sega Master System [Japan] BIOS Japanese Model MK-2000, Serial 37806594 Sega Master System [Japan] BIOS Japanese Model MK-2000, Serial 87105241 Boxed "Master System" [Brazil] Serial (in manual) N.CQ 01057567 Boxed "Master System 3D" [Brazil] "Inclui os Jogos Missile Defense 3D Safari Hunt e Hang On" BIOS Hang On / Safari Hunt Serial (inside) N.CQ 010245796 Sega Master System 1 / Samsung Gam*Boy [Korea] Korean Logo Product No: SPC-100 Serial No: M119507300 Sega Master System 1 / Samsung Gam*Boy [Korea] Gam*Boy Logo Product No: SPC-100 Serial No: xxxxx3704 (??) Sega Master System 1 Prototype M404 BIOS Prototype M404 No product number / serial number Sega Master System 1 Prototype v1.0 BIOS Prototype v1.0 No label, product no, serial no. SMS II Boxed "Sega Master System II" (UK) "Limited Edition Future Zone Pack" BIOS Sonic Power Base PAL-I Model 3006-05 A, Serial 130025444 Boxed "Sega Master System II" (IT) "Gioco Incluso Gia' in Memoria" sticker "Distributore esclusivo Giochi Preziosi" sticker "Sonic The Hedgehog" Giochi Preziosi sticker BIOS Alex Kidd in Miracle World Power Base PAL-G Model 3006-13, Serial 110045332 Boxed "Sega Master System II Plus" (ITA) Tall box package, including Alex Kidd SMS II Package + Light Phaser package BIOS Alex Kidd in Miracle World Boxed "Sega Master System II" (UK) "Limited Edition Jungle Book Pack" package layer BIOS Alex Kidd in Miracle World + Jungle Book Power Base PAL-I Model 3006-05, Serial 120280831 Boxed "Sega Master System II Extreme" (DE) "Extreme Pack" package layer BIOS Sonic The Hedgehog + Master Games 1 Power Base PAL-G Model 3006-18A, Serial 130035300 Boxed "Sega Master System II" (FRA) Regular Alex Kidd package. BIOS Alex Kidd 671-1155A, Made in China Power Base RGB Model 3006-09, Serial 110020134 Box only "Sega Master System II" "Neu! Sonic Set" (DE) Box only "Sega Master System II" Alex Kidd, 1 Pad 671-1155, Made in China, Printed in Hong-Kong Box only "Sega Master System II" Sonic, 1 Pad 671-2792A, Made in Thailand, Printed in Thailand Boxed "Sega Master System II" Sonic, 2 Pads BIOS Alex Kidd MK-3098-50, Made in China, Printed in Hong-Kong Power Base RGB, Model No. 3006-09, Serial No 120068737 Boxed "Sega Master System II" (FRA) "Super Compil / 4 Jeux + 2 Manettes" BIOS Alex Kidd MK-3021-50 Power Base RGB Model 3006-09, Serial 110249580 In blue (rental?) Sega cardboard box (FR) Power Base RGB Model 3006-09, Serial 110418428 Boxed "Sega Master System II Plus" Tall package with SMS II + Light Phaser + Operation Wolf Modded Serial No. 210015318 Loose BIOS Alex Kidd White pause button Model 3006-09 Serial B1001841 Loose BIOS Alex Kid Black pause button Model 3006-09 Serial 110521698 Boxed Sega Master System 2 [USA] BIOS Alex Kidd Model MK-3006, Serial B00087798 Boxed "Master System II" [Brazil] "Jogos Alex Kidd in Miracle World incluido na memoria" BIOS Alex Kidd Serial 004699 Boxed "Master System II" [Brazil] "Jogos Alex Kidd in Miracle World incluido na memoria" "PROMOCAO Mais um Jogo Incluido Jogos de Verao" BIOS Alex Kidd Serial N/A Boxed "Master System II" (Asia/Hong-Kong?) BIOS Alex Kidd Power Base PAL-D Model 3006-15, Serial B00003830 Samsung Aragin / Sega Master System II [Korea] BIOS Alex Kidd KR Model SPC100N, Serial 94YC100120 Sega Master System 3 Compact [Brazil] Blue / Sonic+20 box Sega Master System 3 Compact [Brazil] White / Alex Kidd box Sega Master System 3 Compact [Brazil] Light blue / Alex Kidd box Sega Master System 3 Collection 74 [Brasil] Sega Master System 3 Collection 105 [Brasil] Sega Master System 3 Collection 120 [Brasil] Tec Toy N. CQ 418 019337 Sega Master System 3 Collection 131 [Brasil] Tec Toy N. CQ 4120 68833 Sega Master System 3 Collection 131 [Brasil] New Design Sega Master System Super Compact [Brazil] BIOS Sonic Tec Toy N. CQ 1380 41828 Boxed "Master System Girl" No info? Sega Master System Handy [Brasil] Rev. 05/2004, Serial N.404002390 Tectoy Master System Portatil Serial N.443013954, 44314093 Misc Sega Game Box 9 / GB-9 Serial No. 268055 Sega Game Box 9 / GB-9 Serial No. 268078 Sega Master System Display Unit 16+16 Model 3011, Serial B 720462 Board 837-6272, Sticker 870525.0516E BIOS EPROM 27128, Sticker "EPR-10569" Sega Master System Display Unit 16+3 Model 3011, Serial B 723137 Board 837-6272, Sticker 870724.2524E BIOS EPROM 27128, Sticker "EPR-10569" Sega Mark III Soft Desk 10 Hardware - Sega Mark III board 171-5304 - Cartrige multiplexer board 834-5391 (c) Sega 1984 - Debugger board Sega Demo Unit II - Model No. 3087 - Serial No. J8B 02225 - Board SEGA 837-6457 IC BD DEMO UNIT Sega Mark III [Japan] No telecon pack artwork Serial 4696623 Sega Mark III [Japan] With telecon park artwork Serial 4749347 (originally from [no telecon pack] box) (mixed up hw here) Aaronix Sega Mark III [Taiwan] Model MKIII Serial No 009887 |
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 9:27 am |
Thanks! We don't currently understand Mark III and other pre-SMS or non-Sega serial numbers, but hopefully we can work those out in the future. | |
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:29 pm |
I've these 3 SMS 1 PAL europe models:
40b29014 : SMS 1 with Alex Kidd in memory 49i61691: SMS 1 with Hang On and Safari Hunt in memory 49G90483: SMS 1 whit Hang On (Not sure, i'need to check that) |
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2016 1:36 pm |
Thanks, can you include the model numbers as well please. Yes, 49G should be bios code B (Hang On). | |
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:03 am |
I confirm that Hang-On is the game in the third machine.
These're the model numbers: 3005-06-B for the Alex Kidd and the Hang On ones. 3005-24-A for the one with HangOn and Safari Hunt. |
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:00 pm |
Cheers. For the one starting "49i", are you sure that the "i" is in lowercase? I've only seen uppercase "I" used in that year and for that bios before.
For models beginning in 4 (Made in China); 3010-A 3010-B 3010-C 3005-xx-B/C/D 3005-xx-A 3005-xx-C 3000
1+ 5+ A+ G-H I-J K Y a-b c-d h-i Letters M-X, e-g were reserved for Mega Drive / Genesis. The bios code for Alex Kidd changes as older bioses are gradually discontinued, starting with Missile Defense 3-D bios, only seen in 1988-1989 so far. |
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:26 pm |
just checked, is actually in uppercase, sorry :-P | |
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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:47 pm |
That's a relief, otherwise I'd have to go back to the drawing board :) It's only an issue for H/h and I/i which use both upper and lower case. | |
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Posted: Sat May 07, 2016 1:31 pm |
my SMSII (PAL-G) - AKiMW inside - made in Thailand, bought in Italy (but has a TUV sticker... weird?):
Model: 3006-18 S/N: 220410716 |
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 7:38 pm |
Thanks, it's actually a German model (region code 18), but Italian ones (13) also have the TUV sticker too. The rules were stricter in Germany, they required extra shielding, maybe it was the same for Italy. | |
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Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 9:53 pm |
SMS 1 - USA
Model 3010 Serial No: 48526609 Bios: v3.4 (Hang On) |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:12 am |
Extra shielding? This one has its metal shield which covers the whole board, you mean other models aren't so? :| |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:01 pm |
Actually, I'm not so sure about SMS II. With SMS I my German models are a lot heavier than my UK models, and the service manual lists two shield plates which are only for West German models (which are in mine). I do actually have an Italian SMS II, but not a UK one to compare it with. It would be nice to note the differences between model numbers. |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:00 pm |
German SMS 1
BIOS: 1.3 (Snail Maze) Model No.: 3005-18 Serial No.: 86501528 |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 5:08 pm |
Thanks, this is the earliest one that I've seen. It should have this early board revision. If you ever open it up, please post the date printed on the board, it should be in the format of "61.x.xx". We can get a pretty good idea of when they started manufacturing PAL units. |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:30 pm |
Done. The board is stamped "61.9.03". |
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:13 pm |
Thanks! It's actually one day later than my slightly higher serial number. I guess that they didn't assemble them the same day as the boards were manufactured :). Still, I think we can say that it's unlikely that there were any German models manufactured before late August 1986. |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:39 am |
So beyond estimating production numbers, we're also discovering previously undocumented models. Such as "3006-27" (PAL-I)(region code "27"=South Africa)
Here's a South African TV advert ... in Afrikaans! |
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:12 am |
Model: 3006-03
Serial: 120072059 Bios: Alex kid Country: Australia |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 4:05 am |
US Master System, BIOS v1.3 (snail)
Model No. 3010 Serial Number 38250160 Made in Taiwan |
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Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 10:45 pm |
^ Thanks.
I've come across an unexpected model/serial. Factory "8" (Japan) manufactured the first PAL consoles in 1986. Batch 865 for Germany (3005-18), and batch 866 for other PAL countries. I think the only difference was that Germany got Hang On included. So far I've come across 3010-03 (Australia) and 3010-11 (Hong Kong) from batch 866. I've also seen 3010-07 (South East Asia), but the serial wasn't clear. I presume that there should also be 3010-13 (Italy) as SMS released in Italy in 1986, but I only have a small sample of Italian serials so haven't come across this one yet. Surprisingly I've also come across 3010-05 (UK) from this batch, despite SMS not getting released in the UK until nearly a year later. This one was in Hong Kong, which already had it's own model released. Ariolasoft was supposed to release the SMS in the UK in 1986, they even held a press event to show it off, but they never did release it. When Mastertronic won the distribution rights at the 1987 Summer CES it was reported that Sega and Ariolasoft couldn't agree on a pricing policy. So it looks like Sega actually manufactured UK consoles for a 1986 release, but ended up shipping them to Hong Kong (which was the only other PAL-I country where SMS had been released). I haven't actually come across this one in the UK. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 6:26 pm |
This one now confirmed. That brings to 69 the total number of confirmed SMS model numbers not including TecToy, Samsung, or Mark III. I'm sure that there are more yet to be discovered. I'm still collating these in case anyone has missed this thread before. |
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:12 am |
I have acquired this one
US SEGA SYSTEM POWER BASE MODEL 3010-C S/N: 48A08435 SEGA OF AMERICA INC MADE IN CHINA BIOS 4.4 (Missile Defense 3D) |
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:48 pm |
Thanks ^. Missile Defense 3D console is relatively rare in the US, but even rarer in Europe. Until now I've only seen 1988 and 1989 manufactured PAL consoles, which made sense as the 3D glasses were discontinued in the US in 1989, and the last acknowledged 3D game, Outrun 3D released mid-'89 in Europe, and was cancelled in the US and Japan. I've recently come across a 1990 model (second digit of serial number is last digit of year), although it's very low, so it seems that it only just about got manufactured into 1990. That would probably make it a VA3, which I don't think has been documented in a Missile Defense 3D console.
Incidentally, you can tell the bios for PAL consoles from the third character of the serial number. Here's the ones that I'm aware of, along with the known years of manufacture (every year they'd start at the same number/letter and then move onto the next after 100,000 units). With SMS II they changed the format (a small number of Australian SMS 1s use the same format as SMS II). 5 v1.3 86,87
6 v1.3 86,87 7 v1.3 87 G v3.4 (Hang On) 88,89,90,91 H v3.4 (Hang On) 89,90 I v2.4 (Hang On/Safari Hunt) 88,89,90,91 J v2.4 (Hang On/Safari Hunt) 90 c v2.4 (Hang On/Safari Hunt) 90 K v4.4 (Missile Defense 3-D) 88,89,90 a Alex Kidd 90,91 b Alex Kidd 90 h Alex Kidd 90 i Alex Kidd 90 |
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:03 am |
I have 2 SMS units
Unit 1: US system v1.3 Model 3019 Serial 16199560 Sega of america made in japan Unit 2: Japanese SMS Model mk-2000 Serial 37847276 Sega enterprises ltd made in Taiwan |
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Model / Serial Number Request
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:39 pm
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These are all Australia PAL Consoles AFAIK.
MASTER SYSTEM: SEGA MASTER SYSTEM Power Base –early model Model No.: 3010-03 S/N: 86634035 Made in Japan SEGA MASTER SYSTEM POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) Model No.: 3005-03-B S/N: 40G18909 Made in China MASTER SYSTEM II: MASTER SYSTEM II POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) -Greytop* Model No.: 3006-03 S/N: B0043740 Made in Japan MASTER SYSTEM II POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) -Greytop Model No.: 3006-03 S/N: B10088307 Made in Japan MASTER SYSTEM II POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) -Blacktop Model No.: 3006-03 S/N: 110072544 Made in China MASTER SYSTEM II POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) -Blacktop Model No.: 3006-03 S/N: 120009610 Made in China MASTER SYSTEM II POWER BASE PAL-B(VV) -Blacktop Model No.: 3006-03 S/N: (unreadable) Made in China |
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:37 pm |
Thanks guys.
A strange thing with Australian SMS IIs made in China is that they had both PAL-G and PAL-B(VV) versions with the same model number (3006-03). That confused me for some time as I consistently got twice as many serial numbers for 1992 as 1991 despite the highest number being around 100,000 for each, which was statistically improbable (pretty much impossible). Then when I noticed the different types and ordered them by model number + PAL type the discrepancy went away. Grouping together they're ordered randomly, rather than in batches, which offers further confirmation. So for these consoles, it's possible for two consoles with the same model number to also have the same serial number, so we also need the "PAL-G" or "PAL-B(VV)" designation. Unfortunately that means that I have to discard some serials as I didn't record that detail or have a picture. I don't think Australia started using UHF (PAL-G) transmissions until the late 70s, so when SMS released in 1986 many TVs could still only receive VHF (PAL-B) transmissions. I guess this wasn't an issue by 1991 when they also started producing PAL-G consoles for Australia, although as they continued to manufacture PAL-B consoles then maybe it depended on the State? |
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Model / Serial Number Request
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:15 am
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I've seen the same for the Mega Drives I have - they came in either PAL-G or PAL-B(VV).
Let me know if you want the Mega Drive S/N's and data. |
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:04 pm |
Yes, Mega Drive ones are welcome too, although I haven't done anything with them yet. | |
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:20 am |
I don't know if you're still with that, but I have an aditional Serial:
Master System II POWER BASE PAL-G MODEL No.: 3006-18 SERIAL No.: 120190788 |
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I have a master system 2 UK pal made in japan !
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:16 am
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I've got a master system 2 pal model made in JAPAN it's a very early model with Alex kid the inbuilt game
Is this rare model ? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:02 pm |
Wanted to bump this as I recently bought a US model 1 with a very unusual serial number. If the SN is any indication, this was manufactured in 1992 which is very strange for a model 1, especially a US model. I got this from an Egyptian seller and I'll report back once it arrives. It could be a Mexican console from what I've seen in this thread.
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:40 pm |
Yeah, for some reason these 1992 SOA SMS 1s ended up in Egypt, also seen there; 120000412 120002848 120002922 120003528 120008370 So maybe about 10,000 of those. Would be interested to see what bios it has. |
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 2:12 am |
The Egyptian SMS arrived, it is indeed identical to a later NTSC system right down to having Hang-On/Safari Hunt built-in. Seems to be working perfectly too.
The board also has an assembly date of February 14, 1992 and all the chips have either 1990 or 1991 datecodes. Very curious as to why it was built so late considering SMS II production was already in full swing, and why it was in Egypt of all places. Maybe this was sold at the US commissary in Cairo? |
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 9:51 pm |
Thanks for posting! My theory on these is that they were meant for Mexico, but were no longer wanted so just got sold to the Egyptian distributor instead. Pure speculation on my part though. | |
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 6:17 am |
The Master System in this video is also an NTSC unit from 1992 and has an even later assembly date than mine (October 7, 1992): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Glt6ra1-o | |
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2024 11:16 am |
Some screen grabs from the video for reference.
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 6:25 am |
Found yet another 1992 model 1 from Egypt: https://www.ebay.com/itm/375423674206
I also noticed that it comes with an orange-tipped Light Phaser, didn't know that the orange was just a sticker and not painted on. |
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 5:09 pm |
SEGA MASTER SYSTEM
Power Base German v1.3 snail maze MODEL NO. : 3010 SERIAL NO. : 77569807 MADE IN CHINA |
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