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 Rare SC-3000 tapes: Assembleur Symbolique (France), Matematica 1 (Italia)
 Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:47 pm Last edited by Bock on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:04 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Two rare tapes I have recently acquired:
ASSEMBLEUR SYMBOLIQUE 1984 by Loriciels France 16-pages manual Back of the box "Un véritable ASSEMBLEUR double passe avec un Editeur puissant. Si vous désirez écrire des programmes performants en language machine : voilà l'outil idéal. Un programme de type professionnel pour votre SEGA-YENO, livré avec manuel. Entièrement relogeable sur le 32 K. Compatible SEGA-YENO 16 ou 32 K" Also released in the same boxed format. "Création des Sprites", "Moniteur Désassembleur" and "Kamikaze". -- SC-3000 Softwaqre Applicativo cassetta programma MATEMATICA 1 cod. 249110303 per BASIC level 3A e 3B Distributed by Melchioni 8-pages manual Back of the box mentions other available software: MATEMATICA 1 & 2 MATEMATICA 3 INGEGNERIA 1 INGEGNERIA 2 ELETTROTECNICA ECONOMIA E FINANZA EDUCATIVI I also have Elettrotecnica 1, Ingegneria 1, Ingegneria 2 so I can confirm those at least exist. I also have a tape called *Apprendiamo il BASIC" (learn Basic) which match the description of EDUCATIVI so it may be the same. 
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Creations des sprites
Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:04 pm
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Here's "Creations des Sprites"
I have uploaded those two pictures a long time ago but not sure if they had a forum link. It's not actually from Loriciels but with the matching format and the suspiciously adhoc company name "Sprites" I suspect it may just be Loriciels? 
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:18 pm
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French magazine LIST October 1984 Issue mention "Moniteur Désassembleur" for a price of 180 French Francs.
The full magazine scan is hosted by http://collection.sasfepu.free.fr at http://collection.sasfepu.free.fr/pdf/list_03.pdf 
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:44 am
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| Needless to say, if you'll ever need accurate translations from anything in Italian feel free to ask me. | |
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 3:47 pm
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7 of those italian cassette were displayed in what looks like an italian retro-computer exhibition.
http://www.archeologiainformatica.it/2015/10/17/brusaporto-2015-reportage-e-vide... 
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2016 4:09 pm
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Damn it, Brusaporto isn't that far from where I live, I can get there in a couple of hours, if only I knew...
Anyway, that website mentions Giancarlo Oneglio as the owner of that SC-3000 stuff, I'll see what I can do and if it would be possible to drive him here. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:49 am
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I don't like to double post, but I found that guy's Facebook page, and there are some pictures on it. Apparently, this one is rare:
Well, I sent him a message with a link to the home page, I really hope he can join, this forum needs more Italy :P 
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:54 am
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Tom, which part is rare? The SF-7000 or the H version of the SC-3000? I have a H version of the SC-3000 myself but don't have the SF-7000 |
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:27 am
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| To be honest, I have no idea at all, I just pasted one of the pictures which has "rare" in its description. | |
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:52 pm
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| I think the SF-7000 is comparatively rare in Europe, it seems to have done better in Australia and New Zealand. | |
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:21 am
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| If rare is anything to go by.... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/191773563962 | |
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:51 pm
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hi all,
the collection is mine :) |
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:58 am
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Hello Giancarlo,
Could you publish a list of the tapes/disks you have? Thanks! This is my list 3 Giochi Jazzy/Ragni/Black Box [ITA] TIB
Archivio Telefonico Blue [ITA] TB cod. 249110331 Software App. : Elettrotecnica 1 Red [ITA] TIB Software App. : Ingeneria 1 Red [ITA] TIB Software App. : Ingeneria 2 Red [ITA] TIB Software App. : Matematica 1 Red [ITA] TIB Software App. : Matematica 1 Red [ITA] TIB Software App. : Matematica 2 Red [ITA] TIB cod. 249110304 Software App. : Matematica 3 Red [ITA] TIB cod. 249110312 Software App. : Totocalcio Red [ITA] TIB cod. 249110309 Titolatrice di Cassette [ITA] TB Apprendiamo Il Basic Blue [ITA] TB cod. 249110301 |
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:35 pm
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hello, sorry for a very-huge-delay :(
my whole life is a mess :( i attach picture o my tape collection. recently i received a "big" archive from an old collector :)
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:53 pm
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Fantastic pictures !
Thanks for sharing :) |
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Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:30 pm
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Just bought some Loriciels tapes including a Moniteur desassembleur
Will make detailed pictures during the week (until then, posted it on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/CtEaf3Do2mo/ ) |
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:55 pm Last edited by BKK on Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:33 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Videogiochi 22 (cover date 1985-01) has a list of Italian SC-3000 games including 9 cassette games, which were L16,000 each;
Black Box (No genre listed) Black Jack (Azzardo) Bombers (Spaziale) Jazzi (Strategia) Kamikaze (Spaziale) Master Mind (Strategia) Othello (Strategia) Ragni (No genre listed) World Defender (Spaziale) As I have never seen any of these I wondered if they were ever released individually (Black Box, Jazzi, and Ragni were released as the compilation "3 Gioche per Home Computer SC-3000"). Kamikaze was released in France by Loriciels, along with Reversi Champion (Othello?), so I thought that maybe those were just the French versions released in Italy. But this listing finally shows the Italian release of Kamikaze along with Othello, and Ragni. I now suspect that all of those were released in Italy. Bombers and Master Mind were very popular games available in various forms on many different platforms. The most interesting missing one to me is "World Defender", which seems to be a shoot 'em up going by the genre. The covers for these are styled differently to the educational software that Melchioni released. 
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:25 pm Last edited by BKK on Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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The MSX Magazine & BBC Electron Sega" was an Italian MSX magazine with a cover tape that was also supposed to have some SC-3000 and Acorn Electron software on it.
Issue one was supposed to have the SC-3000 games "Attacco Di Mostri" and "Torre Misteriosa", but as the actual magazine doesn't seem to mention them, and the only cover I've seen has the SC-3000 & Electron games scribbled out then I'm not 100% sure they made it onto the cassette. Issue two does show the SC-3000 games, although as I can only find a scan of the MSX side of the cassette, and one of the magazine pages which shows which games were included is missing, then I'm not sure if this is all of the SC-3000 software included. Known games from this cassette; Bombers Sprite Palloncini Elettronica Maybe some of those were previously released by Melchioni, or maybe they're different versions. Whilst Issue 3 still keeps the "& BBC Electron Sega" tagline, all of the games on the cassette are for MSX, and the magazine doesn't seem to cover the other platforms. 
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:33 pm
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Pyramids of mars and tombs of doom, thanks to a stupidly expensive ebay auction, we now have pictures
( https://www.ebay.com/itm/155964619376 ) Game was mentionned here https://solutionarchive.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=1687&start=15 
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:29 pm
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Found this Finnish SC-3000/SF-7000 bundle on my hard drive which I don't remember saving. Most likely from a Finnish auction site. Sunny mentioned here that Finland got John Sands and Grandstand tapes, but I've never seen any mention of any domestic SC-3000 cassettes.
They come in generic "New Brain" packaging with the original Finnish SC-3000 distributor's details. I guess they distributed that computer before SC-3000 and just used the same packaging for SC-3000. It looks like they just stamped the title and platform with one of those old ink stamps with the letters on wheels you would roll around to spell out what you wanted. I thought "Mato" would be to do with mathematics, but according to Google translate it translates as worm or grub, so maybe it's a game. 
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:44 pm
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Interesting find. Back in the days, around 1987-1988 my SC-3000 was bought from a store located in Lahti so apparently these were sold also outside of Helsinki. And yes, "Mato" is a worms-game, never seen it tho on the SC-3000. The other one, "Grafiikka" means Graphics. Would it be possible to have them in digital version to test? |
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:33 pm
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I don't have the actual tapes, just pictures. I have typed out some Finnish software from Mikrobitti that I can post in a new thread if you're interested.
Incidentally, the SC-3000 distributor changed in 1985 from "Digital Systems" to "Oy EMS". Edit: Oh I see, it's probably a "Snake" game, which is appropriate seeing as Nokia was Finnish too. 
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:09 pm
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| Thank you, I'm interested in everything related to the SC-3000. | |
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