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I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately.

Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

Richard

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> I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately.
> Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

Could you estimate the price for 1000 pcs?
If it is reasonnable, I'm not against picking a bunch myself, to be redistributed to SMS Power whenever we'll have some easy to build FM expansion unit.

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> Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

Certainly Richard! It largely depends on price (what kind of price per thousand are they talking about?), but I'd be interested in getting a small quantity (<50).

Best wishes,

Mike

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> Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

I'd be interested in a board and a few bare chips, what would you say would be the minimum sub-order from the 1000?

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> Certainly Richard! It largely depends on price (what kind of price per thousand are they talking about?), but I'd be interested in getting a small quantity (<50).

In a conversation with one of Yamaha's UK distributors, I learned that the unit price when order in 1000s is 765 Japanese Yen for the YM2413B (DIP version). The sales representative converted this into a ball-park figure of 6.50 GBP per unit, again assuming 1000, before postage costs and as a very rough first-order estimate.

This is rather a lot higher than I had anticipated; however I am investigating the situation further. There is an alternative distributor I have still yet to try.

Richard

I have a european master sistem I (with alex kid inboard game) so...i think i will be interested on make a FM board...but...where are the schematics...and information? and it's possible to hookup on a pal system? are the master system a universal system or it have territorial lookup...thxs

I wouldn't mind getting a hold of a pcb like that either :-)

"I only want a few, but I have to buy 100's and I can't
find them in any online stores"

How many times has this happened to you? "SmallBuys"
was created to address this problem.

Purchasing small quantities of specialized non luxury
goods is a problem because suppliers and online shops
won't stock them for fear of them not selling.

A typical example of this would be the latest electronic
integrated circuits. Developers have to buy in quantity
just to evaluate them.

SmallBuys at http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk was created to
address this problem.

If you have a product that you're desperate to purchase
with these constraints then almost certainly there will
be many others in the same predicament.

SmallBuys links all interested parties together so that
a combined minimum quantity order can be placed.

So visit SmallBuys and place your FREE request for any
specialized products. Then visit regularly to monitor
the popularity of your request.

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> I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately.

> Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

>
> Richard

SmallBuys - The store where you request the products

"I only want a few, but I have to buy 100's and I can't
find them in any online stores"

How many times has this happened to you? "SmallBuys"
was created to address this problem.

Purchasing small quantities of specialized non luxury
goods is a problem because suppliers and online shops
won't stock them for fear of them not selling.

A typical example of this would be the latest electronic
integrated circuits. Developers have to buy in quantity
just to evaluate them.

SmallBuys at http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk was created to
address this problem.

If you have a product that you're desperate to purchase
with these constraints then almost certainly there will
be many others in the same predicament.

SmallBuys links all interested parties together so that
a combined minimum quantity order can be placed.

So visit SmallBuys and place your FREE request for any
specialized products. Then visit regularly to monitor
the popularity of your request.

------------------------------------------------------

SmallBuys - The store where you request the products
http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk
http://www.clik.to/SmallBuys

------------------------------------------------------

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> I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately.

> Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs.

>
> Richard

SmallBuys - The store where you request the products

I have just send this message to smallbuy:

I had a e-mail conversation with a Japanese company a few months back, about the same request for those YM2413 chips.

The company is called Prime Technology,
and they told be that they have a minimum order quantity of 100 chips.

I couldn't get 100 people interested in buying those chips, but it seems you are already past that limit.

There website is located at:

www.primete.com

Hope this helps.

Greetings,

Sander van Nunen
sander@msx.org

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Richard Atkinson Guest	YM2413B minimum order quantity Posted: Thu May 10, 2001 9:35 am
Richard Atkinson Guest	I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately. Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. Richard

Zoop Joined: 24 Jun 1999 Posts: 1732 Location: Paris, France	Posted: Thu May 10, 2001 12:00 pm
	Quote > I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately. > Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. Could you estimate the price for 1000 pcs? If it is reasonnable, I'm not against picking a bunch myself, to be redistributed to SMS Power whenever we'll have some easy to build FM expansion unit.

Mike G Joined: 21 Apr 2000 Posts: 598 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England	Yes indeed! Posted: Thu May 10, 2001 2:50 pm
	Quote > Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. Certainly Richard! It largely depends on price (what kind of price per thousand are they talking about?), but I'd be interested in getting a small quantity (<50). Best wishes, Mike

Heliophobe Site Admin Joined: 25 Oct 1999 Posts: 2029 Location: Monterey, California	well well Posted: Thu May 10, 2001 4:55 pm
	Quote > Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. I'd be interested in a board and a few bare chips, what would you say would be the minimum sub-order from the 1000?

Richard Atkinson Guest	Re: Yes indeed! Posted: Fri May 11, 2001 1:38 pm
Richard Atkinson Guest	Quote > Certainly Richard! It largely depends on price (what kind of price per thousand are they talking about?), but I'd be interested in getting a small quantity (<50). In a conversation with one of Yamaha's UK distributors, I learned that the unit price when order in 1000s is 765 Japanese Yen for the YM2413B (DIP version). The sales representative converted this into a ball-park figure of 6.50 GBP per unit, again assuming 1000, before postage costs and as a very rough first-order estimate. This is rather a lot higher than I had anticipated; however I am investigating the situation further. There is an alternative distributor I have still yet to try. Richard

LordC Guest	Posted: Sat May 19, 2001 8:18 am
LordC Guest	I have a european master sistem I (with alex kid inboard game) so...i think i will be interested on make a FM board...but...where are the schematics...and information? and it's possible to hookup on a pal system? are the master system a universal system or it have territorial lookup...thxs

Rob Guest	Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:13 pm
Rob Guest	I wouldn't mind getting a hold of a pcb like that either :-)

Harvey Twyman Guest	Purchasing Small Quantities of Specialized Products Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2001 1:47 pm
Harvey Twyman Guest	"I only want a few, but I have to buy 100's and I can't find them in any online stores" How many times has this happened to you? "SmallBuys" was created to address this problem. Purchasing small quantities of specialized non luxury goods is a problem because suppliers and online shops won't stock them for fear of them not selling. A typical example of this would be the latest electronic integrated circuits. Developers have to buy in quantity just to evaluate them. SmallBuys at http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk was created to address this problem. If you have a product that you're desperate to purchase with these constraints then almost certainly there will be many others in the same predicament. SmallBuys links all interested parties together so that a combined minimum quantity order can be placed. So visit SmallBuys and place your FREE request for any specialized products. Then visit regularly to monitor the popularity of your request. ------------------------------------------------------ SmallBuys - The store where you request the products http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk http://www.clik.to/SmallBuys ------------------------------------------------------ Quote > I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately. > Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. > > Richard SmallBuys - The store where you request the products

Harvey Twyman Guest	Purchasing Small Quantities of Specialized Products Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2001 1:48 pm
Harvey Twyman Guest	"I only want a few, but I have to buy 100's and I can't find them in any online stores" How many times has this happened to you? "SmallBuys" was created to address this problem. Purchasing small quantities of specialized non luxury goods is a problem because suppliers and online shops won't stock them for fear of them not selling. A typical example of this would be the latest electronic integrated circuits. Developers have to buy in quantity just to evaluate them. SmallBuys at http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk was created to address this problem. If you have a product that you're desperate to purchase with these constraints then almost certainly there will be many others in the same predicament. SmallBuys links all interested parties together so that a combined minimum quantity order can be placed. So visit SmallBuys and place your FREE request for any specialized products. Then visit regularly to monitor the popularity of your request. ------------------------------------------------------ SmallBuys - The store where you request the products http://www.SmallBuys.co.uk http://www.clik.to/SmallBuys ------------------------------------------------------ Quote > I have spoken with Yamaha and the minimum order quantity of YM2413Bs is 1000 pcs. I therefore propose to make a one-off order of 1000 chips, for which I will need to gather as much interest as possible. This isn't as mad as it sounds; the MSX community are also interested in obtaining YM2413 chips and I have mailed them seperately. > Would anyone like some YM2413 chips? The boards will come later; I have already started prototyping a tri-pad board for the SMS 1 expansion connector. Once the chips are here and the design works, I will make some PCBs. > > Richard SmallBuys - The store where you request the products

Sander van Nunen Guest	Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2001 12:50 pm
Sander van Nunen Guest	I have just send this message to smallbuy: I had a e-mail conversation with a Japanese company a few months back, about the same request for those YM2413 chips. The company is called Prime Technology, and they told be that they have a minimum order quantity of 100 chips. I couldn't get 100 people interested in buying those chips, but it seems you are already past that limit. There website is located at: www.primete.com Hope this helps. Greetings, Sander van Nunen sander@msx.org ------------------------------. Flight charge is collect. Payment terms:T/T in advance Fob:Japan Please advise.Thank you. Best regards, Ms.Kasai ****************************** Prime Technology Co.,Ltd. Musashi-kosugi STM Bldg.6F, 1-403 Kosugi-cho,Nakahara-ku, Kawasaki-shi, Kanagawa-ken, 211-0063 Japan TEL:+81-44-722-7771 FAX:+81-44-722-0677 Email:sales@primete.com http://www.primete.com

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