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Pioneer TV video game pack SD-G5
Post Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:29 am
Has anyone else heard about this? I just found a reference to it in the cover for SG-1000 Bank panic, and googled a bit.
As it turns out, this was an add-on for a special TV set called SEED made by Pioneer with switchable components, which added an SG-1000 slot to the TV. This fashion brings Pioneer's Laseractive LD player (with optional Megadrive and PC engine modules) to mind, only ten years earlier.

Here is a picture of a SEED set, but without the relevant expansion.

Has anyone seen this? Is this the holy grail of Sega 8-bit collecting?
 
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:55 am
I have never even heard of it or seen it in my life!!

Very cool though
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:06 pm
There's something similar in the MSX system : Pioneer PX-7, SD-R5 and SD-26.

The Pioneer PX-7 is a very special MSX1 machine. Besides the "normal" MSX1 features, it contains a special rom and different audio or video connectors. The special rom includes P-BASIC with instructions for superimposition, stereo control and control of LD-700 and LD-1100 Laser Vision players (first generation of Laser disc players).

The SD-26 is a special component display unit; the SD-R5 is a RGB system control pack.

The special rom was also available as an apart chip that can be added to some other MSX machines and give them the extra features. It was the ER-101 or MSX Expansion Processor.
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:37 pm
You can see the SD-G5 here :

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/cvs/odyssey/videogames/sdg5/info.html

For the moment, the MSX version (SD-R5) is available on eBay, for example here :

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Pioneer-SD-R5-RGB-System-Control-for-Component-Display_W0QQit...

The systems seems similar (also for the component displays SD-21 for SG-1000 and SD-26 for MSX)
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:46 am
Finally some clear pictures. I expected it to be wider, but it's not much wider than the cartridge port.

http://henly.at.webry.info/201109/article_1.html














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Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:54 pm
The SD-R5 was an RGB input which enabled the display to be used as an RGB monitor. It also had inputs for super impose and video which were intended to be used with the MSX PX-7 which was capable of super imposing graphics onto video and controlling certain Pioneer laserdisc players (LD-700 and LD-1100). Looking at service manuals it seems that the SD-21 and SD-26 also had the ability to control these laserdisc players, and the PX-7 had an input enabling this function to be daisy chained from the display through the MSX to the single input of the LD player.

This module has a direct equivalent in the Laseractive's "PAC-PC1" which enabled a PC to control the LD player and super impose graphics.



Here's a view of the rear connection of the SD-R5;



Another module was the SD-K5 Karaoke module, this also had a direct equivalent in the Laseractive's "PAC-K1".

SD-X5 was a stereo TV tuner module.



Interestingly they also released a version of the SEED TV in the United States; the SD-25.







These modules are listed in the brochure, unsurprisingly the SD-G5 isn't listed;

SD-X7 Tuner Module
SD-E5 Enhancer Module
SD-R5 RGB Module
SD-K5 Sing Along Module

It seems that initially this TV was released with the SD-X5 Stereo TV Tuner which used the Japanese EIAJ stereo sound standard. When the US later adopted the rival "MTS" standard the SD-X5 was replaced with the SD-X7 which supported the new standard.

The SD-E5 was used for adjusting various picture settings to enhance image quality of recordings.



Here's the bottom of one of these modules;



And here's the box, perhaps the SD-G5 came in similar packaging;



There is one more Pioneer part that follows this model numbering "SD-T5", but I have no details on what it is, or even if it's related to the SEED TV. Maybe a Teletext module? Or maybe it's completely unrelated.

It's interesting just how many similarities this shared with the Laseractive, it's a clear predecessor to it.
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:16 pm
This is some really cool stuff. How do you go about finding it? I have an RGB monitor from the late 80's I found at a goodwill a year ago and they're absolutely awesome. If it was possible to find this Pioneer RGB monitor I'd totally jump on it.
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:21 pm
Here's a picture I took while visiting Masato in Hokkaido.
It is a SD-G5 in a custom display presentation structure as used in shops.

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:09 pm
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Here's a picture I took while visiting Masato in Hokkaido.
It is a SD-G5 in a custom display presentation structure as used in shops.


Oh wow, that's awesome.

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This is some really cool stuff. How do you go about finding it? I have an RGB monitor from the late 80's I found at a goodwill a year ago and they're absolutely awesome. If it was possible to find this Pioneer RGB monitor I'd totally jump on it.


There's an RGB module on Ebay now;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-Model-SD-R5-RGB-Video-System-Control-Pack-/29046...

The actual display doesn't show up too often, but I'd suggest keeping an eye on Ebay for an SD-25 or SD-25A, if one does come up it should be cheap, but shipping may be expensive depending on where you live.

You can probably forget about coming across a SD-G5 though.
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:48 pm
The SD-G5 would have to be searched for on Yahoo JP Auctions I'd assume.

The monitor looks pretty sweet. I'd love to own a few more CRT monitors.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:09 am
More pictures from a recent auction
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n150111270?al=11&iref=alt_s

It reached an absurd absurd price of 221,000円 (~$1700). Presumably it is very rare and the last missing hardware item of many Japanese Sega 8-bit collectors which I suppose explain the crazy price.

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Post Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:56 pm
I noticed this Pioneer branded SJ-200 amongst pictures of Korean stuff. The controller pictured in the post above seems to have the same branding, so I guess that this came with the SD-G5.

http://www.smspower.org/museum/korea/

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Post Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:26 pm
Bock wrote
More pictures from a recent auction
http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n150111270?al=11&iref=alt_s

It reached an absurd absurd price of 221,000円 (~$1700). Presumably it is very rare and the last missing hardware item of many Japanese Sega 8-bit collectors which I suppose explain the crazy price.


Wow O_o
Did anybody ever see the actual television ?
I have read in a book just translated to french from japanese ( http://omakebooks.com/fr/ouvrages-omake-books/133-guide-de-consoles-de-jeux-vide... , pretty interesting book btw) that it cost a really high price by the time ( the equivalent of today 2000 €)
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