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Unreleased SMS "Game de check! Koutsuu Anzen" (ゲームでチェック!交通安全)
Post Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:47 am
*EDIT* Topic renamed from "SMS - Self Check 3-in-1 from Tokyo Marine and Fire Insurance Co. LTD (Asunde Manabu Koutsuu Rule)".

From the awesome Suka Sega's Nofu,
This is (apparently) a copy of a copy of an article published in a Japanese paper around 1988:



A driving rule related 3-in-1 cartridge for the Sega Master System & Sega Mark III, very much in the same spirit as Car Licence (except this one looks better :)

Transcription of the article instruction:
Nobu wrote
遊んで学ぶ交通ルール
TVゲームでセルフチェック

TVゲームの楽しさを交通安全に役立てようと、このほど、東京の保険会社で、交通安
全教育用のゲームソフトが企画製作された。
3種類のゲームが1本にパッケージされたソフトカセット「ゲームでチェック/交通安
全」は非売品だが、
自治会や子供会、幼稚園などの団体を対象として、ゲーム機(セガ・マスターシステ
ム)とともに貸し出されている。
お問い合わせ 東京海上火災保険株式会社広報課


Summary:
Game de check/koutsuuanzen
*not for sale
*TOKYO MARINE AND FIRE INSURANCE CO.,LTD.
*3 in 1
■ドライビングセンテンステスト(driving sentence test)
1.ドライビングアイ(driving eye)
2.スピードセンス(speed sense)
3.ドライビングテクニック(driving technique)
4.リスクコントロール(risk control)
■君はベストドライバー(you are the best driver)
■ピョンきちアドベンチャー(pyonkichi adventure)

Of course, this is near impossible to find. I don't know anyone who own this cartridge right now. Might be a legend.
Thanks Nobu!

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Auctionned
Post Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:52 am
A cartridge for it is being auctionned now.
The name is "Game De Check! Koutsuu Anzen" (ゲームでチェック!交通安全), meaning something along the line of "Let's check traffic security with a game!".

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k124368577

The initial auction price is 3 millions yens (about $32000) which the seller mention is a fantasy price, and he looking for direct offers starting from a tenth of that, 300000 yens. Meaning it is just too expensive, but I think it is possible that it sells. Game is tested and working although there's no screenshots provided.

Attaching the auction text.
幻のソフト
ゲームでチェック!交通安全
動作確認済

全文を了解の上、責任を持って入札ください

セガ・マスターシステム/マークⅢ用ソフト 「ゲームでチェック!交通安全」 を
今回出品させていただきます

ネット上では所有報告も無く、実存するのかどうかも知られていないソフトで
海外のセガ愛好家のサイトでは “入手ほぼ不可能のレジェンドソフト” と評されております

これは1988年、交通安全の啓蒙・教育のために東京海上火災保険とセガが共同開発し、
希望団体に貸出された(だろう)ソフトです。
新聞記事等で報道はされましたが、実際に出回ったかどうかは不明です

これまでコレクションとして保管しておりましたが、
どれくらいの評価をされるのかという好奇心も兼ね、今回出品いたしました。
セガを心から愛されているコアなファンの方にお譲りできればと思っております

コンディションは全体に軽い経年感、ラベルに軽い黄ばみ(日焼け)があります。
端子部にも経年感がありますが、あまり使用されていなかったようで接点は元気です。
出品に際し、マークⅢにて動作確認をいたしましたが良好です。
年代を考えると全体に傷みも軽く、使用中古としてはまずまず良好の部類に入ると思います。
とはいえ、美品ではありませんので細かい状態を求める方はご遠慮ください

画面写真はおたのしみ、ということでナイショにしておきます。
シュールでポップな感を漂わせつつ、結構やり応えのある楽しいソフトです (^o^)

とりあえず高額で出品いたしますので、値下げ交渉より希望額をお伝えください。
納得の額を提示していただいた方にのみ連絡を差し上げます。
金額は30万円スタートとさせていただきます。
尚、必ず取引意思のある方のみ参加ください

1回の出品期間で交渉できるのは3回までですが、できるだけたくさんの方に
ご参加いただきたいので何回か再出品をしてじっくりと開催しようと考えています。
楽しみながら参加していただければ幸いです

Seller doesn't say from where he obtained the cartridge, but he held it in his collection for many years. He makes a reference to this very thread being the only place talking about it on the internet (quoting me for using the word "legend").

Says its good looking and well playable (with a "surreal pop" feeling to it). To be relativized on the fact that it is a driving security software, mind you.

I would be interested in purchasing it but it's not even a semi decent price now. Just hoping that the buyer is someone I know, maybe the cartridge can be borrowed. :)

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:38 am
Actually there's more information on Suka Sega (unsure when it appeared) from various old articles:
http://park21.wakwak.com/~suka/sega/ippatu/gamede/gamede.html
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:32 am
I made an offer to purchase it today (undisclosed amount).
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:03 am
Bock wrote
I made an offer to purchase it today (undisclosed amount).


good luck man, please keep us updated. this game looks strangely fascinating to me :)
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:22 am
Well it's at least fascinately and stupidly expensive.
My offer is much lower than the asked price but since it seems like he's not selling it yet I thought I would give it a go.
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:17 pm
Well, somebody got it, was it you?
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:22 pm
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Well, somebody got it, was it you?

No :(
It sold to fc_zion for an undisclosed amount.
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:10 am
That's a shame :(
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:29 pm
Perhaps it be worth trying a forum fundraiser for any future prototype buying if its being sold to the highest bidder. I guess at least some people would be willing to donate towards getting a game so it could be dumped, rather than Bock trying to pay entirely himself. Its something that has been done on other forums for unreleased games.
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:23 pm
Not undisclosed:
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k125708555

It got sold for 800000Y
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:29 pm
that's almost 6500 euros O_o
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:26 pm
I PMed Bock saying I could help, but of course not for such a kind of amount..
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:56 pm
Are we strong enough as a community to gather that kind of amount AND want to? I was ready to pay quite a bit (and Adol too I guess) but not even as high as the reserve price.

I don't mind trying but generally those occasions are pretty rare and I'm not fond of encouraging the price raise for those stuff anyway.

Plus it's not like we have great organization on anything ^^
FluBBa donated some money last year which helped me buy a GG prototype but I couldn't dump it yet. Things are as much delayed by the fact that few people are working on improving our dumping technology and when they do it's quite seldom (there's no off the shelf GG Reader design anywhere to be seen).
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:44 pm
Bock wrote
*EDIT* Topic renamed from "SMS - Self Check 3-in-1 from Tokyo Marine and Fire Insurance Co. LTD (Asunde Manabu Koutsuu Rule)".

From the awesome Suka Sega's Nofu,
This is (apparently) a copy of a copy of an article published in a Japanese paper around 1988:



A driving rule related 3-in-1 cartridge for the Sega Master System & Sega Mark III, very much in the same spirit as Car Licence (except this one looks better :)


Transcription of the article instruction:
Nobu wrote
遊んで学ぶ交通ルール
TVゲームでセルフチェック

TVゲームの楽しさを交通安全に役立てようと、このほど、東京の保険会社で、交通安
全教育用のゲームソフトが企画製作された。
3種類のゲームが1本にパッケージされたソフトカセット「ゲームでチェック/交通安
全」は非売品だが、
自治会や子供会、幼稚園などの団体を対象として、ゲーム機(セガ・マスターシステ
ム)とともに貸し出されている。
お問い合わせ 東京海上火災保険株式会社広報課


Summary:
Game de check/koutsuuanzen
*not for sale
*TOKYO MARINE AND FIRE INSURANCE CO.,LTD.
*3 in 1
■ドライビングセンテンステスト(driving sentence test)
1.ドライビングアイ(driving eye)
2.スピードセンス(speed sense)
3.ドライビングテクニック(driving technique)
4.リスクコントロール(risk control)
■君はベストドライバー(you are the best driver)
■ピョンきちアドベンチャー(pyonkichi adventure)

Of course, this is near impossible to find. I don't know anyone who own this cartridge right now. Might be a legend.
Thanks Nobu!



お久しぶりです。

このゲームの話題が出てくるとは…。
私もこのゲーム存在だけは知っていましたが現物は見たことがありません。
ネットオークションの内容を見る限り、ここのサイトの観覧したことがある人物のようですね。
ゲームは欲しいけど値段が高い。
20万円で落札されたようですね。
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:47 pm
Bock wrote
*EDIT* Topic renamed from "SMS - Self Check 3-in-1 from Tokyo Marine and Fire Insurance Co. LTD (Asunde Manabu Koutsuu Rule)".

From the awesome Suka Sega's Nofu,
This is (apparently) a copy of a copy of an article published in a Japanese paper around 1988:



A driving rule related 3-in-1 cartridge for the Sega Master System & Sega Mark III, very much in the same spirit as Car Licence (except this one looks better :)

Transcription of the article instruction:
Nobu wrote
遊んで学ぶ交通ルール
TVゲームでセルフチェック

TVゲームの楽しさを交通安全に役立てようと、このほど、東京の保険会社で、交通安
全教育用のゲームソフトが企画製作された。
3種類のゲームが1本にパッケージされたソフトカセット「ゲームでチェック/交通安
全」は非売品だが、
自治会や子供会、幼稚園などの団体を対象として、ゲーム機(セガ・マスターシステ
ム)とともに貸し出されている。
お問い合わせ 東京海上火災保険株式会社広報課


Summary:
Game de check/koutsuuanzen
*not for sale
*TOKYO MARINE AND FIRE INSURANCE CO.,LTD.
*3 in 1
■ドライビングセンテンステスト(driving sentence test)
1.ドライビングアイ(driving eye)
2.スピードセンス(speed sense)
3.ドライビングテクニック(driving technique)
4.リスクコントロール(risk control)
■君はベストドライバー(you are the best driver)
■ピョンきちアドベンチャー(pyonkichi adventure)

Of course, this is near impossible to find. I don't know anyone who own this cartridge right now. Might be a legend.
Thanks Nobu!


Been a while.

The subject and come out of this game is ....
There was only actual game I knew was never seen.
As far as the contents of the auction, it's like viewing a site that people have here.
Game I want is expensive.
It sounds like a bid of 200,000 yen.
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:29 am
No prototype fundraiser has ever raised that much money, I don't think we could have pooled together for this one.
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:58 am
The owner has posted a shot and some info here:
http://1st.geocities.jp/murakun5555/Introduction03/IntroductionMK3.html
Search for " 交通安全 " in your browser to find it.

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ゲームでチェック!交通安全
ゲームを楽しみながら交通ルールや安全マナーを学ぶ目的として東京海上とセガが共同で開発したソフト。三種のゲームが収録されており、利用希望の団体に無料で貸し出しされていた(らしい)。
発売元:東京海上火災保険
発売日:----.--.--    価格:非売品
ジャンル:その他
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Video from 1988
Post Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:00 am
Lots of news today (I'll make two post).

First, someone uploaded a short TV segment where the game is shown:


https://twitter.com/onda_to/status/1181406893090033669

The video was actually uploaded in 2011, somehow the only link to it I can find on the web are the tweet above and a YT comment three months ago.

(I am attaching a copy of the video file here.)

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New auction with manuals, hard case
Post Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:11 am
(Also see the video I posted above a few minutes ago^)

In the tradition of overly expensive car-related software, we have a new contender:

https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d392865103

Someone posted the game for auction, this time with 2 booklets and a hard case holding a SMS system as well.

Current auction starts at 3,500,000円 (about $30K) which means it is not going to sell and the buyer is going to be waiting for offers, except with YAJ any message sent to owner is made public so it is traditionally not a place were people perform much offering. More likely it is going to sell to private hands for under a tenth of that.

The manual also shows a date of 1987/12/16.
We have a page http://www.smspower.org/Games/GameDeCheckKoutsuuAnzen-SMS with a screenshot of the title screen as published by the owner (who dumped it, but won't allow to release it).

Text:

幻のセガソフト 『ゲームでチェック!交通安全』貸出ケース+取説+マスターシステム 東京海上カセット SEGA Game de check! Koutsuu Anzen

幻のセガソフト 『ゲームでチェック!交通安全』 貸出し用純正ケース+取説+マスターシステム付 東京海上非売品カセット SEGA 動作確認済 Game de check! Koutsuu Anzen

関係者より譲っていただいた正規品になります。
1988年に交通安全の啓蒙、教育のために東京海上火災保険とセガが共同開発し、希望した団体に貸出されたソフトです。
ヤフオクでは2010年にソフト単品で一度だけ高額で落札された履歴があるようですが、今回はソフトの他に金属製の貸出用ハードケース、説明書2冊、マスターシステム(ACアダプタ欠品)のフルセットでの出品となります。
あまり貸出されなかったためなのかかなりキレイで状態いいです。動作も確認済みです。

ネット等調べてみてもあまり情報がなく、まさしく幻のソフトのようです。

この状態でのフルセットは今後そうそう出てこないと思われますので、
コレクションに加えられてはいかがでしょうか?

【ゲーム内容】
1本のカセット内に、ドライビングセンステスト、君はベストドライバー、ピョンきちアドベンチャーの3つのゲームが入っており、特に違反すると点数を引かれるゲームは難しくて楽しめます。

【動作】
3ゲームすべての最初の方を少しだけプレイしましたが問題はなさそうです。
最後までは確認していませんのでその点ご了承ください。
マスターシステムは手持ちのACケーブルで動作させましたが基本的に問題なさそうです。ACケーブルは付属しません。

【外観】
ソフト:多少のキズ、多少の浮き、スレ、ジャケットシールのズレ・ヨレ、わずかな黄ばみがありますが、経年を考えると状態はかなり良いと言ってもいいと思います。端子も白くきれいです。
テキスト:ザーッと見た感じ書き込みはありません(見落としはご容赦ください)。多少の黄ばみ、小破れ・折れなどございます。
マスターシステム:ところどころスレや小キズはありますが、実際にあまり貸し出しされていないようでかなりキレイだと思います。
貸出用ケース:内部のスポンジが劣化でボロボロ取れます。外観は経年に対してそれなりです。

セット内容:ソフト、ソフトの説明書2冊、マスターシステム本体、コントローラー1個、RFスイッチケーブル(ACアダプタ欠品)、マスターシステムの説明書保証書(期限切れ)類、純正貸出用ケース(鍵付き)
写真にあるものがすべてです。

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・落札後3日以内に入金できる方のみご入札ください。入金がない場合は再出品または次点繰上げにいたします。
・商品は画像のものがすべてです。画像にてご確認下さい。
・細かいキズ等見落としなどあるかもしれません。予めご了承ください。
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:29 am
We could get $3000 together as a community couldn't we? It´d be a shame to miss this opportunity again.
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:32 am
Not $30K though... it's not even a good game, this is really a curiosity rather than something worth spending thousands on.
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:24 am
I don't think it worth it ^-^;; It just a special software made for a well known Japanese insurance company that must have just explained about basic road traffic laws. I wouldn't be surprised if such game was available at those parks in Japan that explain about road laws in general (we have one in the North of Kyushu).

Usually the park is free and allow you to borrow a bike and you ride in a closed road environment to learn about traffic light, signs etc. We mostly just went to do some cycling, like most people did (laugh).
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:54 am
I'd say any unreleased SMS game is worth of preservation... but indeed not for that kind of money.

The long lost Bio Force Ape for NES for example sold in Yahoo! Auctions for 250,000¥ (a little more than 2,000€). More than 10 times that? Don't think so.

The seller might really believe he can get 3.5 million ¥ because he is emphasizing he has the "full set". So I'm guessing it will take at the very least 1-2 weeks until he becomes open to offers.
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:27 pm
Bio Force Ape had much more hype, though.
There was a hoax/prank find of the game five years prior, on the once-popular game collector forum Digital Press, that created a few memes.
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 1:25 am
128 people watching the auction right now.

It's not a very high number, since expensive and rare auctions attract a lot of curiosity. (The 10 million ¥ Super Famicom complete collection had already 987 watchers in the first 1-2 days.) Unfortunately the seller will probably misunderstand it as genuine buying interest.
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