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[VGM Pack] Trivial Pursuit
Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:39 pm
Last edited by Maxim on Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:15 pm; edited 3 times in total
http://www.smspower.org/Music/TrivialPursuit-SMS

At 259 tracks and over 45 minutes, this is the largest VGM pack we're ever likely to get. Unfortunately it sounds pretty bad :)
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Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 pm
So I've ripped the music from Trivial Pursuit in an unusual way - I reverse engineered the music engine and reimplemented it in JavaScript, and used that to dump out all the tracks directly to VGM format.

The problem is, there's loads of tracks, many unused ones, some duplicates, and most importantly - no titles for many of them! In particular, some are associated with unhelpful questions, and some are completely unmatched with the questions! As far as I can tell, the Spanish music questions are just completely broken most of the time (plays "The Star Spangled Banner", asks "what is the capital of this country", answer is "Moscow"), so I have not even tried to label them with the questions (files starting with 5). The rest, I've either identified (but confirmation is welcome), added a clue from the game, or left unlabelled.

So, here comes the biggest VGM pack I've ever seen, 257 files, over 42 minutes of music - and I didn't even rip the actual music yet!

tl;dr: Please help identify the tracks. Knowledge of classical music will help a lot, as will familiarity with 70s musicals and 50s pop music.
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Post Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:19 pm
7f16c - Bach: Cantata, BWV 147, Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
7e4ff - same as above, but with higher pitch / faster tempo?
7dcb3 - Au clair de la lune (French folk song)
5f580 - Mozart - Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
5f658 - sounds like Edvard Grieg - In the Hall of the Mountain King
5ef20 - sounds like Johannes Brahms - Lullaby
5f1a4 - Piotr Ilich Tchaikovsky - Waltz of the Flowers from "The Nutcracker"
5e9ae - sounds like My Bonnie Lies over the Ocean (Scottish folk song)
5e72c - Beethoven - Fur Elise

Will try to add more when I get time :)
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:38 am
Building on...

5e7a1: sounds like a broken Can-Can (which makes sense, since it's in one of the (Spanish) questions)
5eb64: this one is weird, because it's definitely Hungarian Dance Number 2 (see at 5:59 mark of this video), yet one of the answers is Hungarian Dance Number 5 (which is, as you already identified, 7dd0c, so I don't know what's going on here)
5ebf4: Moonlight Sonata, also used in the Thexder videogame
5f08c: Vivaldi - Primavera (or Spring, if you don't speak Italian)
5f131: Госуда́рственный гимн Сове́тского Сою́за
5f25f: I don't know, but it's used in Factory Panic as well, so I guess it might be something Russian too? Nevermind, I see it's duplicated at 7f1a3, where you identified it
7c52f: Death of a Clown
7e56b: Ode to Joy
7eff4: this is Für Elise as well, just slower

I can also confirm 5e72c, 5ef20 (which is the same source tune as 7dd56, but arranged differently), 5f1a4, 5f580, 5f658, 7e4ff, and 7f16c, from the post above.

Ok, after ~one hour of repeated edits, I think this is it.
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:55 am
Thanks guys, I'll merge them in and upload again, maybe this time splitting by identified and not. There is a lot of redundancy and the same tune twice with different arrangements in there, I find it hard to keep track. Sometimes I went on a Wikipedia dive to label the music by its original name, where it got recycled, but may not have ended in a consistent place all the time.

Another side note - I think the Spanish ones are offset by one from their questions at one point, which would explain the mismatch and potentially help bring in the questions as clues. I might not have got the Also Sprach Zarathustra one without knowing it was there from another question. But many of the questions are unhelpful or only identify the genre or composer or country. Some suggest various national anthems are present. Some seem to say they are played backwards, which is bizarre.

There's also a few where the question isn't Spanish (7xxxx numbers), and identifies the music - but then I'm pretty sure it's wrong. These are labelled with a (!), and need some figuring out.
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Post Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:57 pm
Update: I sorted out the Spanish questions (they were all off by one), which gave me a few hours of clues to follow. An updated zip will be coming soon.
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:52 pm
Here's the update. I've gone through every question and generated some clues in the titles wherever possible, but there are about 50 with no clue at all because they're unused.
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:53 pm
Got another one...

5e5fe - Niccolò Paganini - Moto perpetuo.vgm

5e7a1 is a Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody, but which one? Is it another part of 2?

7d6a5, 7d70a, 7d7c5, 7d872, 7d945, 7d9f3, 7da3c and 7db4b are in a large block of nursery rhymes - so they are probably nursery rhymes too.
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Post Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:26 pm
You're right, I can't believe I was wrong about 5e7a1 before, it's not the Can-Can, it's indeed another part of Hungarian Rhapsody Number 2, I don't know what I was thinking, I saw the Can-Can in the questions and I got misled, good thing that you didn't fall for it.
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Post Posted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:41 am
Getting the questions fixed helped a lot, it told me Liszt and Hungary which is most of the way there.
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Post Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:03 pm
7da3c is "Sur le Pont d'Avignon" ("On the Bridge of Avignon"), a classic French nursery rhyme.
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Post Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 4:59 pm
I remember the duck (AKA Question Master) playing on the piano an excerpt of "My Best Friend's Girl", from The Cars. Maybe some of the remaining unknown tunes are pop songs too.
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:53 pm
Not very sure, but 7d70a perhaps is the lullaby known as "It's Raining, It's Pouring". Check the final moments of The Simpsons 3x09: the mockery song Bart & Homer do at Nelson uses this melody.

7dc86 is an excerpt of Scotland The Brave (or at least, I remember this little part sounds on the Highland Tribe of Lemmings 2)

7e294 is a well known classical music piece, but unfortunately, I don't remember now its name or composer. I'll search about it.

Now, let's go to the songs of which I am 100% sure to know:

7dd9a - Bach - Minuet In G Major - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1DDSLdDOo

7eef4 - Beethoven - Bagatelle No. 25 in A minor for solo piano [AKA Für Elise] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVW8tgGY_w

7e56b - Beethoven - 9th Symphony - Movevent IV [AKA Ode To Joy] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWyYn0E4Ys

All Hail The King!:

7c5c4 - Elvis Presley - (You're The) Devil In Disguise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyK_GbGuxyA
7c6f3 - Elvis Presley - Don't Cry Daddy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0gx4kPDW0w
7c8a3 - Elvis Presley - Good Luck Charm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0gx4kPDW0w
7c12b - Elvis Presley - Any Way You Want Me (That's How I Will Be) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAL3IOV0kF0
7c997 - Elvis Presley - (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59pOE3OmUi8
7ca86 - Elvis Presley - If I Can Dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA142IsjQiE[/u]
7d088 - Elvis Presley - Return To Sender https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZmUfUBqE-s[/u]
7d271 - Elvis Presley - (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkDbk-egHH4
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:15 am
Great, thanks! I'm diverted with some another project now, after which I intend to try to rip the normal soundtrack so I can package it up, with however many unidentified tracks there are left.
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:09 pm
Last edited by Ron_Stard on Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
A few more songs:

5ee3e - Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - Sleeping Beauty: Grande valse villageoise (AKA The Garland Waltz) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVvBCCvA5Y
5ec61 - Anton Karas - The Third Man - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oEsWi88Qv0
5ebf4 - Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
5e72c - Beethoven - Bagatelle No. 25 in A minor for solo piano (again)[AKA Für Elise] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mVW8tgGY_w
5f1a4 - Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - Waltz Of Flowers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uljlL0ScpYA
5f5ae - Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - Trepak - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ISRMSIyX8
5f25f - Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - 1812 Overture - https://youtu.be/VbxgYlcNxE8?t=839
5f39a - O Canada - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDvF0NtgdU
7dece - Ivor Novello - Keep the Home Fires Burning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCyESeXq3Q4[url]
5f658 - Edvard Grieg - In The Hall Of The Mountain King - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLp_Hh6DKWc
5f697 - Sergei Prokofiev - Romeo And Juliette: Dance Of The Knights - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_hOR50u7ek
7d2c6 - Elvis Presley - That's Alright Mama - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmopYuF4BzY
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:01 pm
Two more identified songs:

7e294 - Frédéric Chopin - Polonaise in A flat major "Heroic" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDU2UkwT3so

7e2c9 - Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky - Romeo & Juliette - Love Theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VMCiewc7mE
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:08 pm
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7dc86 is an excerpt of Scotland The Brave (or at least, I remember this little part sounds on the Highland Tribe of Lemmings 2)

It's actually "The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond" - https://youtu.be/feLT7Btuqpc?t=35s

Many of the above were already identified - be sure to use the latest pack. This update contains only the remaining 67 (!) unidentified songs, with clues where possible.
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:36 am
Maxim wrote

It's actually "The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond" - https://youtu.be/feLT7Btuqpc?t=35s


Thank you, didn't know about that tune. Maybe the SMS/GG Lemmings 2 VGM pack should be corrected with this new info.

7c69a is "Don't Be Cruel", made famous (again) by Elvis Presley

I'l check the rest of them, maybe the clues will give some useful info.
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:00 am
I think the Lemmings songs are medleys, but should probably be updated to list the contained titles.
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:38 am
Last edited by Tom on Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:36 am; edited 3 times in total
7d159: I can't believe I didn't recognize it sooner, it's Something's Happening; while I never heard the English version (and I didn't know there was one until a few minutes ago), it's a cover of a quite famous Italian song.

By the way, this is also how I recognized 7c52f the last time, except it's the other way around (the Italian version is the cover of the English one).

In both cases, I looked for the Italian songs on Google and Wikipedia, and I easily retrieved the titles of their English counterparts.

7e4bf: Пётр Ильич Чайковский - Piano Concerto 1 in B Flat Minor (from 00:15 in the video)

5e927: it's a stretch, but it does sound like Hush, Little Baby, even though that's not a British song, so you can probably disregard this.

7d70a: if this isn't the Haribo jingle, then it might be Ring A Ring O'Roses, but it's even more of a stretch than the previous one.

I think I'm done here, anything from now on would be catching at straws. But hey, the first two songs I identified in this post are correct :P

edit: Maxim posted while I was repeatedly editing this post, so I didn't see it until now. Still, I don't think there are more songs I can identify.
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:12 am
Great! If it's any help, the song list seems to be partially ordered and grouped. The Elvis songs are almost all together in an alphabetical list with mostly other 1950s and 1960s songs, for example:

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7c078 Otis Blackwell All Shook Up
7c0e0 (unknown)
7c12b Cliff Owens; Aaron Schroeder Any Way You Want Me (That's How I Will Be)
7c175 (unknown)
7c1aa Roy Turk; Lou Handman Are You Lonesome Tonight
7c1d4 (unknown)
7c209 (unknown)
7c250 Gene Vincent Be-Bop-A-Lula
7c2c1 Carl Perkins Blue Suede Shoes
7c323 (Boy From New York City)
7c3a7 (Andy Williams)
7c3d7 Jean-Paul-Égide Martini Plaisir D'Amour
7c452 Wayne Shanklin Chanson D'Amour
7c48d Burt Bacharach; Hal David (They Long to Be) Close to You
7c4cd (unknown)
7c4fb (unknown)
7c52f Dave Davies; Ray Davies Death of a Clown
7c562 Ray Davies Dedicated Follower of Fashion
7c5c4 Bill Giant; Bernie Baum; Florence Kaye (You're the) Devil in Disguise
7c605 (unknown)
7c69a Otis Blackwell Don't Be Cruel
7c6f3 Mac Davis Don't Cry Daddy
7c751 (unknown)
7c797 (unknown)
7c7ea Harry Nilsson Everybody's Talking At Me
7c81c Eddie Cooley; Otis Blackwell Fever
7c85e Sam Bobrick; Beverly Ross The Girl of my Best Friend
7c8a3 Aaron Schroeder; Wally Gold Good Luck Charm
7c8e9 Ray Charles Hallelujah I Love Her So
7c95e (unknown)
7c997 Doc Pomus; Mort Shuman (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame
7c9e6 (Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young) (unknown)
7ca14 Clive Westlake I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten
7ca86 Walter Earl Brown If I Can Dream
7cb01 (Elvis Presley)
7cb33 Burt Bacharach; Hal David I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself
7cb66 Bill Taylor; Stan Kesler I'm Left, You're RIght, She's Gone
7cba7 (unknown)
7cbdd Mac Davis In the Ghetto
7cc14 Jerry Leiber; Mike Stoller Jailhouse Rock
7cc7b (unknown)
7ccb3 Ray Davies Lola
7cd3c Sheldon Harnick; Jerry Bock If I Were A Rich Man
7cdc0 7d02b
7ce1d John Kander Cabaret
7ce62 George R. Poulton Aura Lea
7ce96 (unknown)
7cedd Jerry Bock Matchmaker, Matchmaker
7cf30 (unknown)
7cf78 (La Vie En Rose)
7cfab John Kander Money
7cfe1 (unknown)
7d02b (unknown)
7d088 Winfield Scott; Otis Blackwell Return To Sender
7d0e2 (unknown)
7d159 Giancarlo Bigazzi; Riccardo Del Turco; Jack Fishman Luglio (Something's Happening)
7d1a8 Bert Kaempfert Moon Over Naples (Blue Spanish Eyes)
7d1e8 Jerry Leiber; Phil Spector Spanish Harlem
7d233 Ray Davies Sunny Afternoon
7d271 Kal Mann; Bernie Lowe (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear
7d2c6 Arthur Crudup That's All Right
7d30a (unknown)
7d343 Rod Stewart; Jim Cregan; Kevin Savigar Tonight I'm Yours
7d37c (unknown)
7d3b4 (Dionne Warwick) (unknown)
7d3ff (unknown)
7d439 Burt Bacharach What the World Needs Now Is Love
7d46e (unknown)
7d49f (Elvis Presley)
7d4d5 (unknown)
7d507 (Cilla Black) (unknown)
7d583 (unknown)
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:08 am
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Great! If it's any help, the song list seems to be partially ordered and grouped. The Elvis songs are almost all together in an alphabetical list with mostly other 1950s and 1960s songs


It's good you've mention that! Look:

7c323 is [The] Boy From New York City, by The Ad Libs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svztw0okXKY

EDIT - More additions based on alphabet:

7d3b4 - Dionne Warwick - Walk On By - https://youtu.be/ijhL9Y7skQs?t=77 [the video starts at the very exact moment the VGM does]

7d49f - Elvis Presley - Wooden Heart - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X02t8vKLtbw

7d507 - Cilla Black - You're My World - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7-QBw862zk
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:50 pm
Last edited by Ron_Stard on Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
Another two songs identified thanks to the alphabet; you wouldn't guess from WHO they are... XD!

7c605 - Elvis Presley - Don't - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_IEho5uedM

7c751 - Elvis Presley - Don't Leave Me Now - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6-OikhPqsA

And I'm not 100% sure, but 7cc7b sounds like the King Creole chorus, but on a deeper scale (0:22 to 0:27 in the following video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKp63cBhak

The music composer of this game was definitely a die-hard fan of The King! :D
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:59 pm
I guess licence costs may be important. It's weird how much was unused though. The music is by Matt Furniss, I guess he did the arrangements here, but surely driven by the question set instead of his own taste.

I'm crediting the songwriters for all the tracks, Elvis appears only in "as made famous by" notes...
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:32 pm
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I'm crediting the songwriters for all the tracks, Elvis appears only in "as made famous by" notes...


Yes, I know you are interested in the songwriters; sorry for not put them directly here. Elvis hardly could appear here as a composer: he was a great singer, but he didn't write any of his greatest hits, which is very strange... I've heard he was legitimately credited as a co-writer and arranger in just 2 of the +700 songs he sang, but none of them were Top 50 on the Billboard.

By the way, 7d02b sounds (again) similar to another song Elvis made famous: Mystery Train - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_eE0NPArEY . But as with the case with King Creole (see my previous post), I'm not 100% sure of this.
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:27 am
Here's an update with the named and unnamed tracks, and the in-game music (there's only two tracks). I didn't check out the uncertain ones above yet, but I did identify a few more nursery rhymes...

Also I found some issues with Unicode handling in vgm_tag which need some manual fixing.
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Post Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:04 pm
I could identify three more songs:

7cf78 - Edith Piaf - Milord - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwe3CzWZ4Bg

(Composed by Marguerite Monnot and Georges Moustaki)

7c3a7 - Andy Williams - Can't Get Used to Losing You - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO_vKrVxGJM

(Composed by Doc Pomus and Mort Shuman)

7e9c6 - Robin Lamont - Day By Day - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQEUzOACm4

(Composed by Stephen Schwartz for the musical "Godspell"; Robin Lamont sings this song in the movie based on it)
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:28 pm
Maxim wrote
Here's an update with the named and unnamed tracks, and the in-game music (there's only two tracks).


When you finish the game, it starts to sound one more melody (it's brief, but it repeats until you press any button).
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Post Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:20 pm
Hmm, I didn't find it when I worked through all the data. I'll have another look.
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:52 pm
You left this one in the unknown ones:
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7e4bf: Пётр Ильич Чайковский - Piano Concerto 1 in B Flat Minor (from 00:15 in the video)
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:42 pm
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You left this one in the unknown ones:
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7e4bf: Пётр Ильич Чайковский - Piano Concerto 1 in B Flat Minor (from 00:15 in the video)


Yes, indeed, Maxim forgot to list your identified song.

I've asked in another forum about some of the unknown songs, and I've received some successful guessings!

7e1c0 is the 2nd Movement from Haydn's Symphony Nº 94, "Surprise":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLjwkamp3lI


7e91d is Sunrise, Sunset from the movie and musical Fiddler In The Roof:

https://youtu.be/pp8GEytgdZA?t=66

(Composed by Jerry Bock & Sheldon Harnick)


7e5a8 is Chopin's Prelude Op. 28 No. 7 in A major:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLU4wgtpjGs


5ecb3 is Beethoven's Minuet In G:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSXRJwspGU0


7e1f4 is Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 11 in A major, K. 331 - I. Andante grazioso:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP9KWQ8hAYk[/b]


Maybe some more responses will keep on arriving on the thread I created in that forum. I wonder if there is a way to credit the users that helped us to identify these songs (I intentionally avoided publishing the URL of that site, because I feared of being accused of spam).
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Post Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:32 pm
You're welcome to post the URL. I can list helpers in the description text file for the pack, and on the pack page.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:41 am
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5e927: it's a stretch, but it does sound like Hush, Little Baby, even though that's not a British song, so you can probably disregard this.

I also think it sounds like that - but it is thought to be an American song.

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7d70a: if this isn't the Haribo jingle, then it might be Ring A Ring O'Roses, but it's even more of a stretch than the previous one.

Too much of a stretch for me.

I think I'm caught up with the rest now - I have 209/256 tracks identified, which is 82%. Only 38 to go...
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:56 pm
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You're welcome to post the URL. I can list helpers in the description text file for the pack, and on the pack page.


Thanks. The forum where I asked about the unknown tunes is https://www.talkclassical.com, and the thread I opened there is this: https://www.talkclassical.com/55797-help-me-identifying-these.html
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Post Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:20 pm
Another song from The King on the unused set:

7c0e0 - Elvis Presley - Anything That's Part Of You - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObmkUpYspCs

Composed by Don Robertson.
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:25 pm
The pack has been posted at the top of this thread, with 46 tracks remaining unidentified. Corrections are welcome!
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:20 am
Not sure if this is intentional, but...
Track 110 wrote
I'm Left, You're RIght, She's Gone
There seems to be a capital "I" which shouldn't be there.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:43 am
This, and a few other inconsistencies, is now fixed.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:30 pm
I have identified another song! The former 7d3ff (currently #138) is the beautiful Waterloo Sunset by The Kinks (the Trivial Pursuit excerpt spans from 0:35 to 0:50 in the following link):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_MqfF0WBsU

Composed by Ray Davies, obviously =)


And after listening carefully to both of them, and as I suspect in previous posts, definitely #114 must be King Creole (Leiber & Stoller), & #125 must be Mystery Train (Junior Parker).
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:35 pm
Another five "kinky" tunes!

-Track #079 (the former 7c1d4) is Autumn Almanac, again by Ray Davies, leader of The Kinks (Trivial Pursuit excerpt spans from 0:21 to 0:33 in the following link):

https://youtu.be/N3VDATV6dmY?t=21

-The former 7c4cd (now track #088) is another Ray Davies song, Days:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2svmUcsKeg

-The third appeareance by Ray and the Kinks comes in the former 7c4fb, which now is #089: Dead End Street (from 0:49 on beyond):

https://youtu.be/4NBDvXpsBzk?t=49

-And you wouldn't believe it, but 7c175 (#077) is another classic by The Kinks, although a little bit harder to identify - Apeman (from 1:07 on beyond):

https://youtu.be/aRHqs8SffDo?t=67

-'Till The End Of The Day was arranged as 7d30a, and now is #134:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIc-RnqjwWA
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:27 pm
Wow, I had wondered about the number of Kinks songs but there's plenty more now. I wonder why so many were produced, these are pretty obscure songs and how many kids in the 90s would know all this music from their parents' generation?
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 12:14 pm
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Wow, I had wondered about the number of Kinks songs but there's plenty more now. I wonder why so many were produced, these are pretty obscure songs and how many kids in the 90s would know all this music from their parents' generation?


The lyrics of these selected Kinks songs are sometimes strange and sometimes funny (I'm thinking about lines like "Oh, my poor rheumatic back / Yes, yes, yes, it's my autumn almanac" and "I think I'm so educated and I'm so civilized 'cause I'm a strict vegetarian"). But all these tracks -except for "Days"- became Top Ten hits in UK back in the day, and some of them also charted on the US Billboard, so they seem not to be quite obscure songs.

There are still 13 "pop" songs which remain unidentified in the alphabetical list you posted some time ago, and which I have updated:

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7c078 Otis Blackwell All Shook Up
7c0e0 Don Robertson Anything That's Part Of You
7c12b Cliff Owens; Aaron Schroeder Any Way You Want Me (That's How I Will Be)
7c175 Ray Davies Apeman
7c1aa Roy Turk; Lou Handman Are You Lonesome Tonight
7c1d4 Ray Davies Autumn Almanac
7c209 (unknown)
7c250 Gene Vincent Be-Bop-A-Lula
7c2c1 Carl Perkins Blue Suede Shoes
7c323 George Davis; John T. Taylor Boy From New York City
7c3a7 Doc Pomus; Mort Shuman Can't Get Used To Losing You
7c3d7 Jean-Paul-Égide Martini Plaisir D'Amour (Can't Help Falling In Love)
7c452 Wayne Shanklin Chanson D'Amour
7c48d Burt Bacharach; Hal David (They Long to Be) Close to You
7c4cd Ray Davies Days
7c4fb Ray Davies Dead End Street
7c52f Dave Davies; Ray Davies Death of a Clown
7c562 Ray Davies Dedicated Follower of Fashion
7c5c4 Bill Giant; Bernie Baum; Florence Kaye (You're the) Devil in Disguise
7c605 Jerry Leiber; Mike Stoller Don't
7c69a Otis Blackwell Don't Be Cruel
7c6f3 Mac Davis Don't Cry Daddy
7c751 Aaron Schroeder; Ben Weisman Don't Leave Me Now
7c797 (unknown)
7c7ea Harry Nilsson Everybody's Talking At Me
7c81c Eddie Cooley; Otis Blackwell Fever
7c85e Sam Bobrick; Beverly Ross The Girl of my Best Friend
7c8a3 Aaron Schroeder; Wally Gold Good Luck Charm
7c8e9 Ray Charles Hallelujah I Love Her So
7c95e (unknown)
7c997 Doc Pomus; Mort Shuman (Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame
7c9e6 (Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young) (unknown)
7ca14 Clive Westlake I Close My Eyes and Count to Ten
7ca86 Walter Earl Brown If I Can Dream
7cb01 (Elvis Presley)
7cb33 Burt Bacharach; Hal David I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself
7cb66 Bill Taylor; Stan Kesler I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone
7cba7 (unknown)
7cbdd Mac Davis In the Ghetto
7cc14 Jerry Leiber; Mike Stoller Jailhouse Rock
7cc7b Jerry Leiber; Mike Stoller King Creole
7ccb3 Ray Davies Lola
7cd3c Sheldon Harnick; Jerry Bock If I Were A Rich Man
7ce1d John Kander Cabaret [Life Is A]
7ce62 George R. Poulton Aura Lea (Love Me Tender)
7ce96 (unknown)
7cedd Jerry Bock Matchmaker, Matchmaker
7cf30 (unknown)
7cf78 Marguerite Monnot; Georges Moustaki Milord
7cfab John Kander Money
7cfe1 (unknown)
7d02b Junior Parker Mystery Train
7d088 Winfield Scott; Otis Blackwell Return To Sender
7d0e2 (unknown)
7d159 Giancarlo Bigazzi; Riccardo Del Turco; Jack Fishman Luglio (Something's Happening)
7d1a8 Bert Kaempfert Moon Over Naples (Blue Spanish Eyes)
7d1e8 Jerry Leiber; Phil Spector Spanish Harlem
7d233 Ray Davies Sunny Afternoon
7d271 Kal Mann; Bernie Lowe (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear
7d2c6 Arthur Crudup That's All Right
7d30a Ray Davies 'Till The End Of The Day
7d343 Rod Stewart; Jim Cregan; Kevin Savigar Tonight I'm Yours
7d37c (unknown)
7d3b4 Burt Bacharach Walk On By
7d3ff Ray Davies Waterloo Sunset
7d439 Burt Bacharach What the World Needs Now Is Love
7d46e (unknown)
7d49f Fred Wise; Ben Weisman; Kay Tworney; Bert Kaempfert Wooden Heart
7d4d5 (unknown)
7d507 Umberto Bindi; Gino Paoli You're My World (Il Mio Mondo)


I can confirm that there are no more tracks from Elvis nor from The Kinks, since I have listened every possible hit song based on the alphabet for both artists, and their possible songs didn't match with the remaining 13 "pop" tracks.

I'll have a look to the Burt Bacharach full catalogue, since his name is repeated on the list.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:19 am
Let's go with Fiddler On The Roof unknown tracks:

The former 7e7ba (now #229) is an excerpt of Tradition, from the movie and musical I've mention before (from 1:48 to 2:00 in the following video):

https://youtu.be/gRdfX7ut8gw?t=108

And the former 7e76b (#228) is another excerpt of the same song (from 2:59 to 3:10):

https://youtu.be/gRdfX7ut8gw?t=179

Last, the old 7e8b9 (now #230) is the beginning of Sunrise, Sunset (there is another excerpt from this song already identified on the Trivial Pursuit soundtrack, which centers on the chorus). Starts from 2:15 on beyond:

https://youtu.be/03rzUoyq9K0?t=135

Both songs composed by Jerry Bock and Sheldon Harnick.
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:56 pm
Pack version 0.92 should have all the above titles corrected.
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:39 am
Bit hard to track if these were identied yet but anyway:


#153 Sounds an awful lot like a Dutch children's song ('Klikspaan, boterspaan')
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsM4Ew3Wmbg)

#166 Also a children's song...tip of my tongue. I will get back on that.

#226 Muss i Denn (Elvis but based on a German folk song)
#244 Go tell it on the mountain
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:34 pm
Muss I Denn was adapted as Wooden Heart for Elvis, and is already there at #141. But 226 is an Elvis region.

145-186 are all children's songs, some specific to certain countries, so your guess is plausible.

244 fits the hymn/carol songs around it. I'll confirm these by ear later...
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:23 pm
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Bit hard to track if these were identied yet but anyway:


#153 Sounds an awful lot like a Dutch children's song ('Klikspaan, boterspaan')
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsM4Ew3Wmbg)

#166 Also a children's song...tip of my tongue. I will get back on that.

#226 Muss i Denn (Elvis but based on a German folk song)
#244 Go tell it on the mountain


I agree with #226 and #244. #226 was the former 7e6b7, and it's identical to the Wooden Heart I identified back in the day, but in a different scale. Since it wasn't on the "pop songs" list, I overlooked it.

Maxim: If you are going to release an updated VGM pack of this game, please, correct the name of #210 (indeed, it's from a love scene, but this excerpt is from the Romeo And Juliet orchestal work by Tchaikovski, and that should be its name).

And it still lacks the ending tune (from 13:11 on beyond in the following link):

https://youtu.be/JwRSKAIREqY?t=791

And also the right and wrong answers, and the wedge winning melody tunes. Right answer tune here in 4:11 to 4:12 :

https://youtu.be/JwRSKAIREqY?t=251

Wedge winning melody (with caws from the bird) from 5:02 to 5:04:

https://youtu.be/JwRSKAIREqY?t=301

And the wrong answer tune here, at 1:06:

https://youtu.be/h_5H0xBrOFQ?t=66

I can rip them If you need help =)
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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:08 pm
Two more suggestions with some help from my parents;

#136 - KC & The Sunshine band - Please don't go
#202 - Felix Powell - Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag
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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:53 pm
#153 seems to be a better match for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_Rain_Go_Away as the tune diverges just at the end.

#136 I think is not right, it is a partial match but the title doesn't fit the alphabetical sequence it's in (between Tonight and Walk) and the tune does diverge a bit.

#202, 226, 244 are all good, and I added the original title to the other Wooden Heart track.

I don't think the right/wrong answer and winning a wedge sounds qualify as music; the game winning one is probably worth including - I'm happy to take your rip.

The pack is updated with all the above... 31 tracks left.
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Post Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Maxim wrote

I don't think the right/wrong answer and winning a wedge sounds qualify as music; the game winning one is probably worth including - I'm happy to take your rip.


Here it is! Perhaps you should crop it before the melody repeats, I've recorded accidentally one reprise.

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