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Looking for an NTSC SMS I
Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:57 am
To complete my testing setup for SMS game development, I'm looking for an NTSC (for the 60 Hz) SMS I (for the RGB output). I live in Germany, so an NTSC SMS is hard to find. Sometimes US ebay sellers offer international shipping, but it tends to be very expensive.

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:51 am
Why not just adding a switch to a SMS1 or a switch and RGB output to a SMS2?
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:12 pm
A PAL 60HZ modified Master System runs a tad slower than a NTSC 60HZ Master system.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:12 pm
Yes, always better an NTSC console.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:33 pm
Why? You don't even recognize the speed difference between a NTSC console and a PAL console in 60Hz mode.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:07 am
For some reason I tend to prefer to have unmodified original hardware (on the console side - not on the cart side). But if that is too expensive or doesn't give the results I need, might go for modified hardware.

I'm building a testing setup for game development. Currently I have some unmodifed hardware to use in it:

Mark III (60 Hz)
Master System II RGB (50 Hz)
Mega Drive I + Master system converter (50 Hz)

And I intend to use the RGB output on all of them.
Initial testing for games would happen on emulators anyway, which tend to most closely emulate the NTSC 60 Hz consoles, so maybe I don't really need to add the Master System I (60 Hz) to the hardware test setup.
On the other hand not having a Master system I and not having a 60 Hz Master System both look a bit like a gap in the test setup.

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:14 am
I wish you luck finding one! :) If you don't succeed, I might be able to help you with modifying a PAL SMS1.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:26 pm
well shipping international is expensive. I shipped a 32 inch tv to Dominican republic and it was about $130 and that was about 14 days if i wanted withing 7 it would be over $200. Shipping to Europe is even more expensive, a small package about 3 inches by 4 inch was about $30 for the slowest option.
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Post Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:32 am
I'd suggest picking up a French RGB Master System II. Based on the docs on this site, they have the same, higher-rated master clock as the NTSC consoles, but then use the PAL divider to achieve 50hz-ish. This has two implications:

1) With a switch added to use the NTSC divider instead of the PAL one, you should get is essentially an NTSC console.
2) The slightly weird faster-than-PAL, slower-than-NTSC state run at by default sounds like a gap in your current test coverage.

Caveat is that these devices have no output encoder, only outputting RGB.
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Post Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:42 am
Unless you're doing anything with the BIOS or making a light gun game, why not use a cartridge converter with your Mark III? The RGB output is unamplified but if you use the French SCART cable that shouldn't be an issue.
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