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Korean Games Thread
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:09 pm
Last edited by Bock on Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:40 pm; edited 1 time in total
Posting pictures of various Korean items on this thread.
Eventually I'll post what's on the web page here.
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FA Tetris
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:12 pm
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FA Tetris
This is another Tetris clone (not the same as Super Tetris).
Actually pretty decent
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The Three Dragon Story & Penguin Adventure
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:17 pm
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The Three Dragon Story & Penguin Adventure

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Sangokushi III & Gaegujangi Ggachi
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:19 pm
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Both original Korean games running in Master System mode.
They are pretty good.

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Won-Si-In
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:21 pm
Won-Si-In
MSX based. Yet undumped.
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Dallyeora Pigu-Wang & Toto World 3
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:37 pm
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Also original Korean games running in Master System mode.

*EDIT* Using proper Korean game for the dodgeball game.
Dallyeora Pigu-Wang = Run Dodgeball King

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Air Rescue & World Tournament Golf
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:40 pm
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Air Rescue & World Tournament Golf
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Super Monaco GP II
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:44 pm
This one is interesting. The box and manual are European ones. Except the back of the box has 2 stickers: one with Korean text, one marked "Licensed by Sega". The cartridge is Korean shaped cartridge with primitive label.

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G-LOC & Ghostbusters
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:45 pm
G-LOC & Ghostbusters
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Moonwalker & California Games II
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:47 pm
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Power Strike
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:48 pm
Power Strike
In nice Japanese-like 'Gold cartridge' packaging
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Various games compilations
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:53 pm
From left to right, top to bottom:

7-in-1 'Box King 7'
Contains all original Korean games in SMS mode, this is one of the best compilation.

8-in-1 The Best Game Collection
Contains mostly SG-1000 and MarkIII card games.

Super Game World 80

Super Multi Game - Super 125 in 1

188-in-1
Contains all MSX games (about 50-60 different as I recall)

200-in-1

Super Game 270
Contains MSX, SG-1000, and card MarkIII games. More detail in a dedicated thread.

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Re: G-LOC & Ghostbusters
Post Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:33 pm
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G-LOC & Ghostbusters
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Look at the bad reproduction quality on the G-loc cover. The moiré can be seen from across the world.
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Re: Won-Si-In
Post Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:36 am
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Won-Si-In
MSX based. Yet undumped.


Wow!

I was just registering here to post about Korean Zemina games... first let me introduce myself:

I'm SLotman from the site "MSX Files", and for the last 9 years I've been searching for rare games, making some new ones and converting others.

I have converted several SG-1000 games to MSX (BombJack, Dragon Wang among others), and some from ColecoVision - and recently found here the dumps of Dr.Hello and Three Dragon Story - both games released on MSX, but undumped/rare on the system so far.

I then re-converted those two games from Sg-1000 to MSX - and learnt that others like them exists: not only Won-Si-In (another undumped MSX game), but also Cyborg-Z. I found some clues about other Korean games which I don't know if there's an SG-1000 port, like "Alteread Beast" (from Clover) and Gun Smoke (From Prosoft).

If anyone has a dump of those games, please contact me - I would love to (re-)port them to MSX :)

Also, on my site I put some videos of those games (I found them on a Japanese website like youtube called Nicovideo), you can watch them here: http://msx.icongames.com.br
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 6:02 am
SLotman wrote
I found some clues about other Korean games which I don't know if there's an SG-1000 port, like "Alteread Beast" (from Clover) and Gun Smoke (From Prosoft).


Yeah, Gun Smoke also exists for SG-1000 - look at this Japanese topic :

http://www.smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9297

It clearly shows Gun Smoke for "Gam*Boy", which is a Korean Master System/SG-1000 machine! Seems even to be dumped, since the guy took two screenshots... I wish I could speak japanese now :(
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:36 am
Very nice work on the port.
Is there some documentation available about how the conversion are done? This could interested some people here, who worked or are working on similar conversion (the other way, obviously). If you have more info about this, please create a new dedicated thread in the Development forum. Thanks.

On Gunsmoke: The problem is that some collectors are dumping stuff and not willing to release them (there's another video about a fighting game for SMS on Youtube, dump unreleased). I contacted the poster in Japanese and waiting for an answer now.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:42 am
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Very nice work on the port.
Is there some documentation available about how the conversion are done? This could interested some people here, who worked or are working on similar conversion (the other way, obviously). If you have more info about this, please create a new dedicated thread in the Development forum. Thanks.


That'd be a challenge :)
Almost all MSX1 ROM games require the BIOS in $0000-$3FFF, and at least 16KB RAM in $C000-$FFFF. Games typically reside in $4000-$BFFF ($4000-$7FFF for 16KB games). Then there's the AY8910 with a broader frequency spectrum than the SN76489.
 
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 12:38 pm
Slotman: I have figured out how many of the undumped cartridges worked: simply they are using MSX based mappers! (eg: ASCII/8KB mapper) and the first 16KB contains an hacked MSX BIOS it seems. I have now dumped Street Master and Won-Si-In and managed to hack MEKA to show a proof of concept of getting them working (requires some more work on the emulator). Give me some more time to fix all this and eventually release them.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:55 pm
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Very nice work on the port.
Is there some documentation available about how the conversion are done? This could interested some people here, who worked or are working on similar conversion (the other way, obviously). If you have more info about this, please create a new dedicated thread in the Development forum. Thanks.


Actually porting from SG-1000 (no BIOS) to MSX is easy, video just needs to swap the ports (BE/BF to 98/99) - the worst part being converting the input ans the sound to MSX - but since I have those two routines ready, is just a matter of finding OUTs and INs in the SG-1000 ROM, and replace them.

The other way around is more difficult, because of MSX Bios. You would need to replace the Bios calls (if the game uses them, of course) - but not only that, on MSX you can do the same thing through several ways - using BIOS, direct access, or even reading some memory areas; so it's a little more complicated to disassemble everything and port it, than doing SG-1000->MSX.

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On Gunsmoke: The problem is that some collectors are dumping stuff and not willing to release them (there's another video about a fighting game for SMS on Youtube, dump unreleased). I contacted the poster in Japanese and waiting for an answer now.

I hear ya... seen this behaviour before :(
I hope the guy who dumped Gun Smoke don't think like them... it seems to be a very cool game!

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Slotman: I have figured out how many of the undumped cartridges worked: simply they are using MSX based mappers! (eg: ASCII/8KB mapper) and the first 16KB contains an hacked MSX BIOS it seems. I have now dumped Street Master and Won-Si-In and managed to hack MEKA to show a proof of concept of getting them working (requires some more work on the emulator). Give me some more time to fix all this and eventually release them.

If it helps at all, I have Street Master (MSX version) dumped, it's on my site, in the "rare games" section. There are other Zemina games on my site, like some "mario" versions (maybe they could be ported to SG-1000 using this same BIOS?).

And thanks in advance, I cant wait to see Won-Si-In in action :)
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Post Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:06 pm
Sorry to ressurect this old thread, but is there any news on these Korean games? does anyone have them dumped?

I'm still trying to find those Korean games (Alteread Beast, Gun Smoke, Won Si In, Cyborg Z), but had no luck so far :(
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:07 pm
Try to contact this guy:
http://forums.guardiana.net/viewtopic.php?id=878
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:43 pm
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Try to contact this guy:
http://forums.guardiana.net/viewtopic.php?id=878


Does he have any of those games? In that link he doesn't mention any of them :(
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:46 am
well, no, but since he managed to buy so many games in a little time, I guess he can suggest you some contacts to find out what you've been looking for
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Post Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:42 am
I kill someone for the manual scans of Sangokushi III. :P
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:42 pm
Hello Guys, I'm new here :)

I registered because I found a place that sells two Zemina game carts: Flashpoint and Puzzle.

Each goes for less than US$15, but the store gives no guarantee that they still run.

I don't want them, but I thought it might be recommendable to hook them up with someone who'd be able to dump the roms.

So if you're a dumper and interested, or know a dumper who might be interested, let me know.
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:08 am
PM ed :)
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Post Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:26 am
Just got a break. From what I understand, Korean games is basically under the same status as US, games. Considering the goverment. However what I ( and like
the rest of us ) is Korean gaming in general. Asides for the SNK transition.
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:11 am
Does anyone have pics or information on the Soccer game by Daou? I only know it's on the Dodgeball King 7 Compilation...
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:14 pm
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Slotman: I have figured out how many of the undumped cartridges worked: simply they are using MSX based mappers! (eg: ASCII/8KB mapper) and the first 16KB contains an hacked MSX BIOS it seems. I have now dumped Street Master and Won-Si-In and managed to hack MEKA to show a proof of concept of getting them working (requires some more work on the emulator). Give me some more time to fix all this and eventually release them.


Do you have any news about won-si-in? It's been almost two years, and I'm still dieing to see it =)
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:01 pm
Fun fact: Zemina announced a Master System-exclusive Wonsiin II in early 1992. I don't think it ever got made/released, though.

Also, in case someone wondered about the number in the title of "Toto World 3": The protagonist in Wonsiin is introduced as "the little caveman Toto" on the back of the box
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:06 pm
Learned about two other games, only through an advertisement so far:



Red Wiz and Wonder Kid. These were the first two games by Open, after the programmers left Zemina. Wonderkid could have been built upon the unreleased Zemina Wonsiin 2, judging by the theme.

I'm not 100% sure these got actually released, but at least Wonder Kid got referenced later several times when something about Open was written, so it is quite likely for that. Nothing else on Red Wiz, though.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:06 pm
Hey, did you know Samsung also published games on MyCard in Korea?

I own only Flicky, which is seen on the photos below. But I can also confirm the existence of Korean releases for Satellite 7, Choplifter, Safari Race and Galaga on MyCard.
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Post Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:45 pm
Awesome pictures!
I own F-16 Fighter and Yamato.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:37 am
flicky wasn't released on master system which makes one more korean exclusive :)
funny how the artwork reminds me of the Cracoucass in the smurfs comic book
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:45 am
Was there no Japanese card version at all? I guess if there'd have been a card version for the SG-1000 II, then it would have been just advertised as a Gam*Boy / Master System game (the SG-1000 wasn't officially available in Korea).

At any rate, I'm pretty sure it's just the SG-1000 game put on a card. Can't test it though, as I don't own a SG-1000 II (or any other SG-1000 machine, for that matter).

I managed to save the images of the other cards before their pages got deleted from the shop.

Oh, and in case you want the Hangeul for the database:

Flicky 후리키
Choplifter 쵸프리프터
Safari Race 사파리레이스
Galaga 겔러그

Satellite 7 isn't quite readable, unfortunately. I'd say it's 새터라이트 7, but I couldn't guarantee for that.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:11 pm
Given the titles, it seems they must all be SG-1000 cards.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:32 pm
Satellite 7 is Mark III / Master System, isn't it?
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:12 pm
Yes, that's true. I was just guessing about the ones like Choplifter that were released on both.
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Post Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:57 pm
Ah, I see. :)
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Post Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 4:03 pm
Some Korean games usually have two prices marked on cover'

공장도가 ( 유통비용제외가격 )
권장소비자가격

Do you know what they correspond to?
The second one is retail price. The first one seems to be related to factory price / bulk buying but I'm curious why this would be marked on a game box.
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Post Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:24 am
I'm not 100% sure, but it might have been the law to do so at some time. (nowadays most electronic goods don't even have a price tag in stores at all...)


... even more interesting is the fact that the product description for games on these boxes is "plastics, electronics"
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Post Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:38 pm
That guy has two more Mycard games as Korean releases:

http://taksangs.egloos.com/4385637

Magical Tree as 요술나무 and the game with the Japanese title I'm too lazy to look up (something Scandal) as 태권소년.
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:53 am
Slotman: Just released some of the games now
http://smspower.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12328
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:03 am
I've finally finished my article on Korean games (well, the first part of it, anyway). It's not concentrating on any particular hardware, but you'll find Master System stuff covered at the profiles of the known companies (Open, Zemina, HiCom, SIECO/Gameline), a lot of which was only possible thanks to SMS Power (look at the state of Famicom game coverage for the alternative).

All credits I've seen are listed in an appendix, that includes many of the SMS games. Is it OK if I edit those credits in on the individual game sites on here at SMS Power, or is it obligatory to provide screenshots for everything?

Here's the link. Please note that the article is not yet posted on the HG101 main site, and thus still subject to some minor editing:
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/korea/korea.htm
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:35 am
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Is it OK if I edit those credits in on the individual game sites on here at SMS Power, or is it obligatory to provide screenshots for everything?


All contributions are gladly welcomed.

It's not obligatory to add screenshots, just leave behind the [[!Credits lacking screenshots]] tag (and missing image link) so we can fill them in later. It's nice to have some "evidence" (it also helps to notice typos), although of course it's trivial to fake.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:16 am
I had all screenshots for the credits of Jang Pung 3, so I started with that. If everything's alright with the entry, I can start to add more.

I also entered release information based on my copy of Toto World 3.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:49 am
It's OK, except "people" credits should go to the People group (see http://www.smspower.org/Credits/JangPung3-SMS?action=diff ). Note then that you get pages automatically created for the people and on those pages a listing of all the credits they appear in, so (for example) http://www.smspower.org/People/LeeSanghun will fill up with info.

Does it say
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©1994 SIECO
©1994 Open Corp.

in the credits? The screenshot only shows "Presented by 1994 Open".
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:56 pm
OK, got it.

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©1994 Open Corp.

in the credits? The screenshot only shows "Presented by 1994 Open".


Oh, that was from the title screen. I took another entry for reference and thought it was a general information rather than directly refering to the credits scroll... Changed it to what it actually says in the credits now.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:51 pm
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I've finally finished my article on Korean games


Excellent info there, well done. I had been trying to find out the answer to where Toto World 1 and 2 were, and I found it in the article.

There are definite comparisons between Wonder Kid/Adventure Kid and the Original Wonderboy (obviously), but also Toto World 3/Cave Dude has some similarities with Wonderboy in Monsterland/Monster World, such as the hearts health system, melee combat that can be upgraded and a number of similar monsters, such as the SideCrawler below:


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Post Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:41 am
I corrected some Korean title spellings (Super Boy, Suho Jeonsa), but apparently in the games list the Korean has to be changed seperately. Don't know how to do that, though...

This also affects the transcribed title of Suho Jeonsa (formerly Suho Cheonsa).

Gaegujangi Ggachi would also have to be Gaegujangi Kkachi, according to official RR.
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